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Do Lurkers Out Number Members

What is the daily, monthly population

         

fathom

1:24 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Any idea?

Nick_W

1:25 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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No would be my guess. This is one of the friendliest forums I've ever seen. I think the intimidation factor is very small....

Nick

Brett_Tabke

1:39 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Lurkers out number members 3 to 1. It's almost 4 to 1. From time-to-time we will be marking "cherry" threads as members only.

Nick_W

1:40 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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No way!

How do you define lurkers Brett? Are alot of these accounts that are just inactive?

Nick

bird

1:40 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That's quite a surprise. I would have expected a much higher ratio.

Brett_Tabke

1:42 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Just ran the weed earlier in the week Nick and rolled back a couple thousand inactive accounts. (stale = 120 days and zero posts).

Ya, our daily uniques are two fold our total active membership.

It's about 3.75 times as many non-logged in members as logged in (with cookie) members Nick. It's been that way since the beginning Nick. It's just the way we work...

fathom

1:58 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I had a suspicious that there were quite a few, and many professionals.

Having subscribed to every form of newletters and e-zines out there, it amazes me how I read something new at WebmasterWorld and within a day or two another bag full of emails arrives telling me the hotest new SEO and design tips.

Keep up the excellent work WebmasterWorld.

[edited by: fathom at 2:50 pm (utc) on Aug. 31, 2002]

Brett_Tabke

2:16 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>day or two

hehe - funny how that works isn't it.

Mods keep teasing me to plant a fake story just to watch how many newsletters pick them up ;-)

Knowles

2:22 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That would be mean Brett, but none the less funny. I only lurked for a few hours before joining, but I did use the site search before I posted!

Nick_W

2:27 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I didn't lurk at all but jumped straight in with a url drop on the google forum!

Bad Wilson!

Nick

Mike_Mackin

2:30 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Bad Wilson:

We saw you lurk! :)

Nick_W

2:37 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Really?

I wonder what makes people lurk, it's not as if it's some kind of private club.

Nick

rcjordan

2:51 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>wonder what makes people lurk

Some just feel that their level of experience isn't high enough to be able to contribute. Others come looking for a specific answer and find it. As mentioned above, quite a few come to harvest ideas for their own articles and newsletters. (Freelance reporters, one in particular, love their by-line but hate citing a credit, or so it seems.) Still others are members of *gasp* other forums and come here to see if there is any news that hasn't made it to their usual hangout just yet. (Comparing a member's visit to a "breaking" thread here to timestamps is other forums tells the tale pretty quickly.)

fathom

2:53 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey Nick_W, another name for WebmasterWorld -- "Big Brother"!

You can't fib here! :)

rcjordan

3:13 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>You can't fib here!

Oh, you can fib --it just doesn't fly. With the exception of the one reporter who happened to, ummmm, "report" one of our hot threads almost word-for-word as his own work in a MAJOR online webzine, WebmasterWorld hasn't flogged anyone ... none that I know of, anyway.

PeterD

5:51 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'm probably extreme, but I lurked for six or eight months before I finally became a member. It's not that I was intimidated, it's just that I didn't feel that had much to contribute. This is an extremely friendly place, but the level of knowledge here is incredibly high! I've seen very few public forums in any field that operate on such a consistently high level. I'm always amazed by how much good info gets shared here.

ScottM

6:01 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Still others are members of *gasp* other forums and come here to see if there is any news that hasn't made it to their usual hangout just yet.

Other forums? You mean I actually stumbled on the best right from the beginning?

That's a first for me.

dazz

6:16 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I looked and read alot of good threads before i joined.....but there is a scary amount of brilliant info and amazing members who dont mind sharing there insite on helping new webmasters!

Ive set up my company webiste (work for my dad!) and this month we've just had our record month mainly due to the website (with great advise from here we are ranken really well on most SE) and if you dont have to pay for membership soon (re - thread by Brett) I will deffo be making a donation soon!

(sorry for lots of brackets)

ciml

7:26 pm on Aug 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I lurked for a few months. I was worried that I might get addicted.

I was right.

startup

1:09 pm on Sep 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I am wondering how the ratio compares to other forums. For me it seems low, I was expecting it to be around 8 or 9 to 1.

NGene

8:08 am on Sep 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I lurked for a few months. I was worried that I might get addicted.

Hehe. My worries exactly. :)

I'm a lurker, mainly because writing posts would take up too much of my time. I'm one of those people who surf here while at work, so I'd better watch out a bit - I already spend too much time surfing on the web.

Another reason for lurking is that I enjoy reading your posts, but I don't have much to say. I'm a quiet person in real life, too, and I guess the same applies to these discussion forums.

lorax

2:14 pm on Sep 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I wonder what makes people lurk, it's not as if it's some kind of private club.

I lurked for a bit but only because of the intimidation factor. And when I did finally post I cross-posted (geesh)! My apology was accepted and I was encouraged by the positive responses even though I had screwed up.

Brett - I know you've heard this here many times but this Board is a valuable resource. I'm damn glad I found it and that I took the chance and participated!

I forgot to say THANKS.

Gregg

[edited by: lorax at 4:13 pm (utc) on Sep. 2, 2002]

onlineleben

3:17 pm on Sep 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It took me about 9 month to join. Gained lots of knowledge in that time until I finally found anything where I could say something about that wasn't already mentioned somewhere else in the forums.
Anyway, here are some thoughts that legitimate lurkers may have when confronted with a site that is of interest to them:

first, find out if the board is really on topic.
second, its important to check if you really fit the community
third, do you have something to say except "me too"?
fourth, how are newbies treated?

When comparing vistor counts (members vs. lurkers) please also keep in mind that many check WebmasterWorld from work without logging on and submit their contributions from their workstation at home.

Brett_Tabke

6:16 pm on Sep 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Trail of a lurker

WebmasterWorld Friday 7:42 pm on Aug 30, 2002: [webmasterworld.com...]
Only place that is discussed on the internet. Appears to even have been news to Google.

Saturday -> SlashDot [yro.slashdot.org...]
Monday -> BBC [news.bbc.co.uk...] (link back Thank you!)
Monday -> Reuters [news.com.com...]
Monday -> SlashDot [yro.slashdot.org...] (link back Thank you!)
Monday -> Register.co.uk [theregister.co.uk...] (link backs in past - thanks)

I've seen similar trails many times over the last year.

savvy1

10:53 am on Sep 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think that a lot of lukers don't join (at least immediately) due to:

1) Way too much hassle to register:
Find how to register
Fill out a bunch of info (sometimes personal info)
Wait for an email (in many cases)
Find email
Follow instructions on how to validate email:
Click on link in email, or find temporary password, or however this particular forum handles it

2) Since email usually required to join, possibility email address may be sold/spammed

3) Feel they don't have anything to contribute (And/or what they may want to contribute doesn't outweigh hassles of #1)

4) Used to be a member but forgot login info/username and/or which email they registered with

5) Genuinely has no interest in contributing

6) "shy"

Some of these are only perceptions and may not hold true for this forum,but, think of all the forums you've joined in your life and how some of them had some of these problems... user might remember the bad ones.

newedage

3:35 pm on Sep 3, 2002 (gmt 0)



I will write before too many responses mention "feeling my response would be less useful than those posted or will be posted" so that I feel my mentioning is redundant. I will post my experiance and coincidently restart my 120 day posting clock to stay a member :). I work in a completely different field but SE algorithms facinate me and I am drawn to be competant in this subject. Until I do I will contribute what I can and pounce on any questions relating to multi-country tax harmonisation for Web designers, to re-pay some of the obligations I have for all the information I have received from this site. Thank you all.

I do recall now that "Local" posts do not count so pressure is still on me to post somthing useful in 120 days...I am up for the challenge :)