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Two potentially dumb questions,

and I might ought know better.



3:48 am on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed this for awhile now, but haven't gotten around to testing and confirming.

1) The little triangle icon with the ! in the middle - "you replied in this thread" seems to have been working only sporadically. I was just scrolling through the CSS forum to see what was happening, and KNEW that I had replied to a whole lot more threads than indicated. I went through page one and found ten threads that I had replied to, but did not show the icon. This I don't like. I posted a quick add-on post to see if it would trigger (at least temporarily) the icon that indicated I was in the thread. It did in each case, and added one to my post count each time. Checked and tested in a couple of other forums and same deal. Some threads that I had replied to were so marked, some were not. A post added and (at least for now) the icon.

Why do they sometimes show, and sometimes not? Is there some sort of cutoff number where if you've been in X number of threads that the oldest drop off? That would suck.

2) This leads to another possible misunderstanding and question on my part. I replied to a thread that showed that I had already replied and added a response. My post count went up by one. I thought (wrongly?) that post counts were by thread rather than by posts, that is, three responses in one thread is just one post. Am I wrong (most likely)? Where did I get that idea? I don't watch post count closely enough to really know, but I have always liked thread participation as a count guideline - not actual posts. Maybe I got it somewhere else and always though it was here? If not here, I wonder where am a member that handles counts that way. It is so much more restrictive, that I think it provides a much better general gauge.


4:05 am on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Note sure about number 1, but number 2, I always see my post count go up with each post, including this one, so if i post 10 times in a forum thread, it goes up 10 times..


6:05 am on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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#1 !
There is a certain number of recent threads that will show that triangular yield sign icon. I'm not sure of the exact number, but it isn't too many. Newer posts will knock off the oldest posts from showing that icon.

#2 post count
It's called post count for a reason. ;)
Keep in mind that posts don't count in all forums. This forum and foo had them off last time I checked.


7:29 am on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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#1 - Thanks. No wonder they seem to disappear. They do, and I've just never tried to run down why before. It surely isn't that many or for too long which makes no sense to me, but I asked what, not why, so good to go there, and asking the why of something is often more foolish than bringing up religion of politics. The most dangerous and unwelcome question that one can ask most people is why. LOL

#2 - I warned in the title that the questions were potentially dumb. No way around the logical extension that "and I might ought know better." was sliding around "and I might just be stupid." Goes to show how little attention I pay to post count. It's names I look for.

* * * Now I'll be turning over all the potential forums, message boards, and everything else that I am registered with in order to figure out which it is that handles post count by thread. I know that it uses "post count", but to get a more accurate gauge of activity they only count one post per thread, regardless of number of posts within the thread. I've always liked that concept, always remembered it - now don't have clue where it's at. Got so many registrations on so many topics it's a needle in a haystack now. The answer will wake me at 3:00am or 4:00am one of these nights. Such things typically do.


8:06 am on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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#1 - as i understand it there is a number of "most recent" threads that will show the icon.
can't remember if it is most recent of your involvement or most recently posted in by any member.
it might be the "Recent Messages" that show in your profile or the "My threads" in your control panel.
the "why" for limiting the number is probably performance-related.
2# - i think "Foo" is the only public forum that doesn't add to the post count.
i think i have seen a "no count" when posting twice in a short period within a thread - maybe that was your reason for thinking it was "per thread".


10:06 am on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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1# Brett would know for sure the number of posts that show the yellow triangle before the newer ones bounce out the older ( but I think it's around 10 )..flags on threads work the same way ( which IMO is mitigating against those with less than perfect memories )..flag too many and the early flags get pushed off by the later ones ..

post count has always seemed to increase incrementally ..make 3 posts in a thread ( 'cept foo )..post count rises by 3 ..

ah the 4.00 am awakening :) ..that's usually when you dream the correct answer to some code that was bugging you in the waking hours ..:)


12:00 pm on Oct 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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>It surely isn't that many or for too long

To keep those threads valid, the system has to physically go out and load those threads to see if you are still part of that thread before it lists it on your profile. Majorily system intensive. If we track 20 recent threads, that means 20 files are parsed everytime your profile is viewed. Major system hit. I forget the code for the moment, but I think there are some short cuts in there like only updating the list when the threads change or you view your own profile, but it is still a big system hit. I've pumped the number up and down and it is very noticeable when it goes too high.

None-the-less, stay chilly for about six months:
- new bleeding edge server coming.
- move to mysql db
- moving ancillary servers (mainly email) off the box.
- moving secondary domains to their own box.

all that should see a significant boost in speed and system utility.


1:49 am on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Odd that Brett mentions an increase in speed coming soon, as I have never had speed issues on WebmasterWorld. I've always found the forum to be responsive immediately, and I suspect its partly because of a lack of ads unlike most of the other forums out there.
As far as moving to MySQL, that should be a fun experience, I wish I lived near so I could watch the migration. I think there may be a case study in there somewhere.
I would almost go so far as to say that Sun should comp the server and license for the privilage of being able to use WebmasterWorld as a case study, but the down side is "he who pays the piper is apt to call the tune"..and I'm not sure if some type of corporate affiliation would harm the reputation of WebmasterWorld. So, maybe not


2:15 am on Oct 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thread replies 'hang' sometimes. Once in a while I get worried if is going crash before posting. Seems very random, and doesn't hang badly very often.

Speed is usually hard for me to assess fairly. I've got the max available (in this area) 16MB cable connection, so only see speed issues on garbage sites; the ones with Flash and scripts all over the page. If I grind down on one of these, I find it hard to believe that real people can use them at all.


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