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oddsod

6:43 pm on Jan 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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OK, it's not always possible but... there was a "PR update" thread around earlier today which is now gone. Maybe it's a false alarm, or something else, but it would be good if we could know why threads like these are pulled.

Please no smart-ass lessons on PR, tPR, or PR's declining importance in determining SERPs, I really don't need that today.

oddsod

6:51 pm on Jan 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The thread seems to be back now, but the point still remains: It would be good to know when a thread has been terminated, and why.

engine

6:59 pm on Jan 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It just wouldn't be possible to report the reason every thread is ditched.

The most serious are legal grounds, or most commonly are simply spam.

oddsod

7:12 pm on Jan 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for your reply, engine. I appreciate that it's not always possible.

coopster

2:29 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Threads that are put on hold are removed from the active list too so they won't show up in the forums. Mods and admins often put messages on hold while they are dealing with the Reported Message. The "report msg" action doesn't do this automatically but it does trigger a message asking a mod/admin to review the issue and resolve it.

So, as you can see, not only does it cause extra work for a mod/admin, it also interrupts good discussion flow. A nuisance all the way around.

oddsod

3:13 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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>>not only does it cause extra work for a mod/admin
It's extra work. Yes, I agree.

>> it also interrupts good discussion flow
Huh? Right from 2002 to about 2005 (I've been a member and supporter even before 2005) there were numerous instances where mods extended me the courtesy of a sticky to say they were pulling a thread I was participating in. I don't recall that this ever disrupted "discussion flow" anywhere.

Whether there are 2 people in the thread or 20 it takes the same 30 seconds to type up a quick notice. But I do accept that mods are busy.

coopster

4:49 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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pulling a thread I was participating in

Sorry, oddsod, you misunderstood me here. Pulling the thread completely or removing messages within the thread are one thing and you are correct in that most if not all the time the member(s) involved will be notified.

I was specifically referring to a thread that gets put on hold, not one that is pulled completely. One put on hold goes inactive while it is on hold. After it has been fixed, after messages sent to the people that caused the fixing to be necessary, the thread is released and once again returned to the active list. This is what disrupts the conversation flow.

It's like a speaker that gets interrupted in the middle of a really good session by the bloke that didn't turn off his stinking cell phone. Everybody gets to enjoy the wonderful intermission while Mr. Important takes his call.

oddsod

7:32 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the explanation coopster.

cmarshall

3:13 pm on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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One item:

If a thread is pulled because of an action; either deliberate or accidental, that was done by one of the participants, then it would be good to know, as it helps us to moderate and abrogate our behavior in the future.

For example, I may write something that offends someone. Not as a deliberate affront, but, rather, as an accidental one. I have a rather conversational style of posting, and I occasionally ruffle feathers. If I do, I usually appreciate the opportunity to offer sincere apologies (very un-American of me, I know, but I think I may be a pinko or something).

If a thread is derailed, it would be a good idea to make it policy that the moderator issue a PM to the person[s] involved in the part that resulted in the derailment.

At the very least, they should respond to PMs sent them asking if it was something I said. Even if that is not the case, then they can just say "No, it wasn't anything you said."

lawman

4:33 pm on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If a thread is derailed, it would be a good idea to make it policy that the moderator issue a PM to the person[s] involved in the part that resulted in the derailment.

At the very least, they should respond to PMs sent them asking if it was something I said. Even if that is not the case, then they can just say "No, it wasn't anything you said."

That is the policy. If you don't get a sticky regarding an infraction, then it wasn't you. Of course a mod's response to an inquiry is common courtesy and should be done. :)

cmarshall

6:49 pm on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Oh, good. It wasn't me then. I never did get a response to my query, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

lawman

7:38 pm on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Uh oh, I guess common courtesy doesn't always prevail. :(

Marcia

10:41 am on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If you don't get a response from the mod, sticky again and cc an admin - they're indefatiguable and omniscient.

oddsod

11:06 am on Jan 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If a thread is pulled because of an action; either deliberate or accidental, that was done by one of the participants, then it would be good to know, as it helps us to moderate and abrogate our behavior in the future.

Absolutely. Especially when we come from so many different cultures and sensibilities... when one person's joke is somebody else's overt political comment is a third person's adult talk. It's nice to know what you're being censored for :)