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Widgets - What are Widgets?

Webmasterworld and the history of widgets

         

bakbanaan

8:51 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been reading through zome posts here, and i learned alot about how google works. This is a great forum!

I do have a question. What in heavens name is a 'widget'. Maybe it's just my lack of knowledge of the english language that is causing the problem, but...

netnerd

8:53 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Widget : An unnamed or hypothetical manufactured article.

People in here dont want to be specific about items they sell, so they use the general term widget to make it easier to describe what they are talking about.

Hope this clears it up for you!

heini

8:57 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here's a vote for including that in the glossary [webmasterworld.com].

bakbanaan

9:00 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ok, I kinda figured that, but wasn't sure. Thx for the info.

idiotgirl

9:17 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I always thought a real widget was one of those little hand-held razor blade scrapers you used to do things like scrape paint off of windows and such. I even think it was called "The Widget".

I had a widget once. It was yellow widget.

ncsuk

9:28 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Cans of Boddingtons Beer have widgets in them. They are plastic balls much like table tennis which stop the beer from frothing too much and spilling out of the can.

idiotgirl

9:30 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Note to self: better keep the yellow widgets with the razor blades out the beer.

fathom

9:37 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You're all wrong.

Haven't you heard of a Weegee Board.

A widget is the part that moves ALL BY ITSELF! ;)

chiyo

9:38 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I remember using the term all the time in MBA school more years back than i care to recall. Some people visiting WebmasterWorld think that its a WebmasterWorld originated term now!

Alternative if you get bored with widgets - gizmos

awcabot

9:59 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Widgets are produced by Acme Corporation. Thorough testing in the american deserts with a coyote and a roadrunner have proven that ALL widgets are defective.

idiotgirl

10:03 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ALL Acme products were proven defective in that test study. Remember the strap on wings? Yeah, it wasn't just their widgets that didn't work. I think Acme was the target of a mass class action suit.

Which is why so many web sites sell their own brand of widgets now.

edit_g

10:10 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Plugging it into Google gives this for the first result: "For those of you not familiar with [incr Widgets], it is an object-oriented mega-widget set which extends Tcl/Tk and is based on [incr Tcl] and [incr Tk]."

Yes, quite...

btw - I thought someone around here with more adspend than sense was going to place an adword for it. ;)

heini

10:11 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>I remember using the term all the time in MBA school more years back than i care to recall. Some people visiting WebmasterWorld think that its a WebmasterWorld originated term now!

Chiyo, do you happen to know if the history of using widgets as placeholder predates your MBA school?
In any case that clearly dmonstrates where the benefit of using widgtes lies: it's for education.

I know when I joined WebmasterWorld, Jan Rencke welcomed me with the words: Welcome to WebmasterWorld, the University of search engine optimization.

So in a way we seem to continue an honourable tradition here.

2oddSox

11:04 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There's actually a fascinating history behind the phrase.

It's a term that was derived from the early part of the last century.

It actually originated in the fashion industry. In the 19th century, at a time when a suit was general attire for men, they also wore vests (US), or waistcoats (Britain) underneath the jacket - especially toward the latter part of that century. This 3 piece suit continued to be worn into the 20th century but, by about the 1930s, this style began to be seen as too formal. Thus many suits were made 'wiyj' (pronounced 'weedj') - This was a suit that just comprised the jacket and pants. During the World War II era a vest or waistcoat was considered superfluous and way too extravagant for the times, so suits were regularly worn with just the jacket and pants, and described as 'wiyj'd' (pronounced 'weejeted'). The word went thru a major transformation during the aftermath of the war when the term 'weedjet' took on a more general meaning, describing 'anything in general'. It was a slang term that just found it's way into everyday life. Today's incarnation is 'widget'.

Down Under here, it has a relative called a 'herkamizer', but that's another story...

2odd... ;)

Macguru

11:18 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Alternative if you get bored with widgets - gizmos

I always thought gizmos to be high tech widgets.

georgeek

11:34 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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2oddSox That sounds like a very complicated and unlikely derivation to me.

The earliest known appearance of the widget word seems to be in a 1924 play by George Kaufman in which it is used in exactly the same sense as it is used today - as a hypothetical manufactured article. Kaufman was a great humorist and wrote several Marx brothers scripts including Animal Crackers and A Night At the Opera. I should think he invented the word for the occasion, it's the sort of thing he would do, but of course we cannot be sure.


chiyo

11:44 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here is one for the geeks and one for the historians.

1. Is Widget the most used word (minus stop words!) on WebmasterWorld?

1a) or is widget a stop word? :)

2. Who has the honor of being the first member to use the term in WebmasterWorld?

I dont care much for widgets, but my fave tellie show for a while was Gidget... (I may be testing the longetivity of members with this one..)

2oddSox

11:46 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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georgeek,

And if I'm not mistaken, he wore such a 'wiyj'd' suit to the opening of his play ;)

2odd...

chiyo

11:46 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ha Ha MACGuru, it was YOU who changed the meaning for your quizzes!

I would say a gizmo is a widget that is a bit of a gadget...

Monkscuba

12:18 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The usual term in England is "Wojimacallit", but "widget" just has that snappy brand name appeal, so has become more commonplace, even more so than "doobry" and "thingumybob".

In Thailand, Wichit (pronounced more or less just like widget) is quite a common name. One of the main roads in Phuket Island is Wichit Songkran Road.

Sinner_G

12:23 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You're all wrong. Widget stems from the inventor Charles H. Widge, who kept inventing weird things that had no use whatsoever. So they were called widgets. The difference of widgets and gizmos is that gizmos have no practical use, but where in fact invented with a purpose.

georgeek

12:45 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Widget stems from the inventor Charles H. Widge....

He doesn't show in a Google search so now you've invented him what you gonna do with him :)

The difference of widgets and gizmos is that gizmos have no practical use, but where in fact invented with a purpose.

Not according to any dictionary I looked in.

Macguru

12:57 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The difference of widgets and gizmos is that gizmos have no practical use, but where in fact invented with a purpose.

Sinner_G, you got me confused here.

Lets take a practical example :

I just invented garlic flavored dental floss. Would that be a widget or a gizmo?

Jenstar

1:28 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Something I found even more curious is that a search of the US Trademark database shows that both "widget" and "widgets" have been trademarked. And Gillette was one of the companies with a live trademark for their "combination scraper and cutter".

What interesting things you can find when you do searches in that database ;)

edit_g

1:30 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just invented garlic flavored dental floss. Would that be a widget or a gizmo?

I think we have a category error here - that would just be useless. ;)

Sinner_G

1:33 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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He doesn't show in a Google search

Well, many of the people here won't believe it, but you can exist without being googlable. The proof you can see on the site Great Inventors of their Time [sinner_g0.tripod.com]. I would not dare to invent it!

I just invented garlic flavored dental floss. Would that be a widget or a gizmo?

Easy. It has an use, although it is not a practical one, so it is a gizmo.

Sinner

DLadybug

1:49 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just invented garlic flavored dental floss. Would that be a widget or a gizmo?

Naw, that would be a marketing tool. Free Samples of said dental floss should enhance your fresh-breath product line.

Kind of like a spyware enhanced virus checker. <grin>

~Dian

georgeek

7:17 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sinner_G

The proof you can see on the site Great Inventors of their Time. I would not dare to invent it!

I think you meant "The spoof you can see on...."