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Too many rip offs, time to work on a diff area?

It's like the .com bubble around here

         

explorador

2:24 am on Feb 26, 2016 (gmt 0)

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Hi there, I don't live on the US or Europe (Latin America). Being a webmaster and site builder (with traffic and ROI) was at first something misunderstood, then expensive. Now it's "anyone can do it", and it's difficult to find business opportunities. The term "webmaster" is rare to be seen, instead "community manager" and facebook pages took the market.

Far from a rant: the market seems sick. Too many "wordpress" developers (nothing against it, I've built stuff on it too) but it's the mainstream idea that anyone can do it, domain name + free template = success. It's difficult to argue and compete, even if you can build something real that last and works, it's difficult because you see people playing dirty and lie pretty well. You can tell the clients the truth, what works but the other parties sell sugar water that it's not even water. And when one is asked to explain, they take it as if you have something against the other people.

That stage it's... ok, still. The problem is how tainted the market is with clients who were ripped off and now don't believe in anything, instead the way even cheaper prices and impossible results, and some even ask for results first and then, they talk about paying. I've talked with people in some companies working this way: they are selling lies so I moved away from them, there is no ROI.

Don't get this wrong, there clean and dirty developers everywhere, but too many people in such market know nothing, only wordpress because the learning curve... forget the learning curve, it's just install + free theme, so, it's clear how it works. A lot of them tried to build something like my sites including stealing my content, they were taken down already.

How you work in such markets? I'm beginning to think a lot on seeking opportunities on the web (as in other countries).

3Cwebsites

3:22 am on Feb 26, 2016 (gmt 0)

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Hello Explorador,

I too have felt this way and experienced the same issues in over 15 years of web development.

One thing you forgot to mention are the large hosting firms, that have crept in with website builder tools, SEO services, etc. - for $1/month - which have "commoditized" the industry.

I've come to terms with these companies being in our space and have learned several things which may help you:
1) Not everyone is my customer. There are millions of customers out there, and I just look for "mine".
2) I don't compete on price. If someone can't afford me then they're not my customer.
3) Always tell the truth and ADD VALUE. My customers know why they pay what they pay. One of my customers has been around for over 15 years - he won't go anywhere else because of TRUST.
4) Under promise and over deliver.
5) Learn to market/sell and you'll be just fine.

Ken

explorador

3:41 am on Feb 26, 2016 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Thanks Ken, I also think this way. Due to quality, trust and especially results, clients have been loyal and never left. Some didn't took well the advice (when it wasn't a good idea to do something) but others were very, very thankful, specially seeing I was not going to charge them any single coin for something not worth it, I mean not making money at their expenses.

I agree on all your points and have thought this way for quite a while. Some clients went away... but after some time, even two years they came back. The problem? not all clients can afford this, some clients die along with their ideas and bad implementations and thus the market goes weak and weak. I've talked to some clients who want to try again but now have no budget or too little of it. I don't get any wheel moved in this case, can't try to fix things. I learned it's not a good idea to make deals with clients who paid a lot of money to someone for nothing, and then try to make a better world out of it. I sound like a closed circle, but it's just that I don't have any ideas at this moment.