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"professional" web designers

         

lynder

9:15 am on Nov 14, 2007 (gmt 0)



Did you ever come upon those "professional" designer wannabes who use simple modified "free" themes and free photoshop brushes?

Isn't that bad for the industry?

piatkow

8:26 pm on Nov 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You are complaining about the ones who are that sophisticated?

On a certain hosting vendor forum I have come across several posts with the obvious newbie questions like "how do you create a link" and "how do you add a picture" and when I have looked at the sites they have been offering web design services!

katana_one

2:27 pm on Nov 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It's not just web design, but design in general. I run across work by these same types in the print business all the time. It's very frustrating sometimes having to clean up after them.

I used to think that a great way of getting more work would be to go after the client lists of these so-called "professionals," but I soon realized that their clients don't know any better either, and are not going to want to pay for something twice. Especially when they think that what they originally paid for is "good enough."

rocknbil

5:55 pm on Nov 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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There are two aspects to this problem.

One, "what goes around, comes around." Eventually incompetence and inexperience shows it's face and there's no way to mask it. This is when they come knocking at your door. But you have to treat this with respect; instead of "if you came to me first, you wouldn't have this problem" your position should be "I understand what brought you to this point, let's start from where we are."

Two, there's no other way to put it - whether you like it or not, everyone started out as a designer wannabe. Or were you born with those innate talents? :-) A beginner must learn by their mistakes, and it's up to those who recognize the mistakes to bring them up to speed in a productive way. One of those mistakes, of course, is seeing yourself as a professional when you really have a lot to learn.

Fortune Hunter

7:26 pm on Nov 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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not going to want to pay for something twice.

Or pay for it once for that matter. I have lost projects for small businesses when they told me they "found" someone that would do the same thing for considerably less than I was charging. What they ended up with was nothing even close to what I was going to do, designed like crap, but they DID get that great price because of some friend's junior high son that was building web sites out of his bedroom.

everyone started out as a designer wannabe.

This is true, but hopefully if you were a responsible "wannabe" you at least went out and took a couple of classes and spent some time studying design and coding and created several web sites just for fun BEFORE you ever went out claiming you were a "professional" web designer.

rocknbil

10:06 am on Nov 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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^ ^
One of those mistakes, of course,...

:-)

It's a chicken and egg problem for someone breaking in, you have to prove your ability in order to get the projects . . . that prove your ability. Doesn't make it right, but I understand the situation.

pixeltierra

3:37 pm on Nov 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have learned to appreciated wannabees in some ways. Half of my work comes from re-doing their work! Also I have also learned from them how important it is to develop interpersonal skills and persuasiveness with potential clients. I mean if THEY can get work...

It's also fun to shine by comparison.