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How much of Revenue should I ask for as a Webmaster?

What the percentage of Revenue should I Get?

         

specialistu

4:00 am on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi everybody,

I'm the webmaster of an educational site that runs Adsense as of this month. The owner is the content provider (he writes most of the articles on the site), while I am the webmaster and I also help with the Adsense part of it (in terms of placing the codes on the pages, etc.).

I was involved in developing the site from its inception - in fact I came with the idea in the first place. I also did and continue to do all SEO/marketing, although I have to say most of the site's growth was "natural", driven by content liked and linked to by others. The hosting and domain name costs (about $100 a year) are covered by the site owner, and we are planning to cover that from the Adsense revenue, then split what's left.

My question is what would be a fair way of sharing the ad revenue? What percentage of this revenue would be reasonable to ask for?

The owner is a person I respect a lot and he is also a friend, so obviously I don't want to come up with an unreasonable request. Has any of you been in a similar situation?

Any input greatly appreciated!

All the best to you all!

Specialistu

jtara

5:42 am on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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There is no convention for this.

How much work do you do, how much work does the other person do? How much money have each of you expended? You just have to come up with a split that seems fair to both of you.

On the surface, without further information, this sounds like a 50/50 split would be fair. Probably needs to be 51/49 to break deadlocks if this will be a formal corporation or partnership.

On the other hand, you refer to the other person as the "owner". If this is the understanding of both of you, and it would never have happened had he not taken the initiative to get it off the ground, a 66/33 split might be appropriate.

It's whatever you both feel comfortable with.

specialistu

6:28 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks jtara for your very helpful input!

Any other ideas?

LifeinAsia

8:52 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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How much work does he do compared to how much work you do? Look at it in terms of time, difficulty, etc.

When you negotiate, try to look at the other person's perspective as well. Your perspective might be "All he does is write articles- anyone can do that." And his perspective may be "All he does is put those little AdSense thingies up- anyone can do that." Obviously, both are wrong, so you'll need to come together to adequately figure out the proper contributions each makes, and therefore adequate compensation for both.

aspdaddy

5:49 am on Nov 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I agree, but first pay your costs. Then apply a ratio for each area of work like Web design 1, Programing 1.5, SEO 1.5, Content 2, Management 3 and work out how many hours you are each spending and multiply by the ratio.

The other thing is to factor in any profit shares based on any initial investment.

Swanny007

6:09 am on Nov 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Whatever the ratio, I'd recommend you put it in writing, and both sign the paper. Just so there's no problems down the road. Maybe even look at a formal business partnership..?

From what you've said I'm guessing you should ask for something in the 25% - 33% range. IMHO content is king, so if you're not providing content, 50% would be too much to ask.

Marcia

6:57 am on Nov 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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To me, the key issue is that the "owner" is actually the legal owner of the site and the domain name. Unless there's an iron-clad agreement, whatever work the webmaster puts in can end up a wash for him/her if the owner decides to renege on the agreement and go for a better deal with someone else.

I've also had such an offer that I'm contemplating, but it's with a niche product related site and with those, regardless of the content (which is a minimal factor), unless there's traffic there's no revenue - and content does not necessarily mean traffic for a product site, which isn't the same as an informational site. It can be like throwing a great party that no guests come to.

Fortune Hunter

2:54 pm on Nov 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I would think through exactly what you believe your value and contribution to the project is worth. Try to do this in a way that isn't biased (tough to do) and honestly figure out how much it is worth. You might even ask a few people that make similar contributions to other sites what they get. List all the reasons why you believe your value and contribution are worth X.

Next, without revealing any of this research ask your partner what you believe a fair split is and let him tell you. If it is higher than your number than you have to decide if you want to lower his claims. If your number is higher you also have to decide if you want to pursue asking for a better split.

In either case I would keep the conversation very open and present your thinking and research. If you do this openly and calmly I believe you will come to an agreement you can both live with.