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When Moving A Datacenter Goes Bad.

Valueweb/Gate/Hostway Debacle

         

Jafo

6:32 pm on Jul 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I suppose this is the best section to post this to. Anway, I have been a Valueweb customer for about seven years now and recently they sent out an email telling everyone that they will be moving the servers from Miami to Tampa. Hostway had bought Valueweb and they want to consolidate the datacenters.

Basically the email said to expect 12-15 hours down time but no more than 24 hours. Well, over 36 hours later and only 60% of the servers are up according to their own numbers. If you go the Valueweb forums, you will find a long thread of irate customers and a similar one is popping up at Gate.

My one dedicated server has been down almost 40 hours and when you call customer support, it says you may be waiting on hold for get this, 16 hours..

This is really a shame. There was a time when Valueweb really could do no wrong and when they did manage to, they promptly fixed it. What a horrid way to go out.

bppilot

6:41 pm on Jul 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My servers are down with them as well. Between 18 hrs of downtime last week due to a failure on their end to properly update their DNS entries and this move, I've lost more than $100,000 in sales!

Extremely frustrated to say the least. Weather here isn't good right now, but once it clears, I'll be flying to Tampa to their data center to try to get some answers. This may be later today or worst case scenario, early tomorrow morning (wx in Florida during the summertime is usually better in the AM hours).

Jafo

6:44 pm on Jul 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I wish I could fly out there with you! Getting extremely ticked at VW..

bppilot

6:55 pm on Jul 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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There new data center is only about 15 mins from Tampa International Airport. The plane is fueled and ready to go... just waiting... Keeping my fingers crossed that my servers come online or the storms clear (At this point, I'd bet on mother nature cooperating over Hostway).

I simply want to find out what progress is being made - It may be an excercise in futility where I won't even get to talk with anyone, but it's driving me nuts sitting here not being able to do anything at all.

I'll certainly report back if I end up getting there today and finding anything out to hopefully help others going through this same nightmare.

GaryK

7:34 pm on Jul 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The same thing happened when Server Beach was bought by Peer 1 and started moving all the SB servers in their VA DC to a new DC. The move did not go well for some of us.

The move was followed a month or so later by a requirement that all the former SB customers change all their server IP Addresses. But that's a discussion for a different thread.

I guess what I'm left wondering is how small does a website have to be before some sort of fail-over plan for situations like this is practical and warranted?

Should it be strictly limited to deciding how much money you can afford to lose? Or do things like your reputation need to be considered too? If so how do you handle reputation management in a case like this where it's not your fault?

EDIT: Added the fact that the SB debacle only applied to the VA DC.

[edited by: GaryK at 7:35 pm (utc) on July 29, 2007]

bppilot

12:01 am on Jul 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It looks like I'll be headed to Tampa tomorrow morning first thing if the server isn't back up. Another principal from our company will then be taking a flight to Chicago to their headquarters. This is simply too expensive for every company involved for these people to be such lax with the move and their communications. This downtime is beyond what is considered reasonable - it is pure negligence!

Jafo

12:51 am on Jul 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My server is still down..

Jafo

3:56 am on Jul 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My last server just came up at about 11:45 pm EST..