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You Know You Should "Fire" Your Web Designer when ...

         

SlimKim

10:43 pm on Jul 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1. When simple updates go undone for 3 to 4 weeks or longer.

2. When simple updates go partially undone for the same amount of time.

3. When simple updates are repeatedly completed with errors (such as the requested adjustment completed on the wrong page) or significant portions of the update overlooked and left out.

What other signals are you familiar with?

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[edited by: stuntdubl at 11:37 am (utc) on July 19, 2004]
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vkaryl

1:32 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey Slim....

nice offer....

better posted in the Commercial Exchange forum maybe.... logical place!

Might contact you - just resigned my full time job a two hour round-trip commute away....

SlimKim

2:10 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ooops!

I agree ...

perhaps the mods will move it ...

no worries ... this thread was inspired by the similar one named "You know you should "fire" your client when ..."

Thanks to all
: )

percentages

8:41 am on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>You Know You Should "Fire" Your Web Designer when ...

After 6 months they fail to make you a monthly profit.

disgust

9:20 am on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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it isn't the designer's job to make you money, really.

unless you're paying for combined design + marketing/SEO work.

Marcia

10:06 am on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No the web designer isn't responsible for the profit, not even if they're doing the SEO. They've got nothing to do with the photos that are supplied if they're poor with bad lighting, the text that the client writes (or doesn't write) - and isn't the "boss" when it comes to a hundred and one things that may be done by the client's request or preference. Like insisting on heavy graphics and a shopping cart that cause the pages to take two minutes to load.

The web designer also isn't responsible (nor is the SEO) for all the other ways that a site needs to be promoted unless they're being paid for it - and that's not generally a design-related discipline.

Fire the web designer if they keep making HTML errors that cause problems, if they read a couple of articles and decide to "help" the SEO out by keyword stuffing all over the place, if they're unresponsive and uncommunicative, if they don't do updates within a reasonable amount of time -and if you just plain don't like them.

Unfortunately, a lot of people have a site designed and think that the designer is totally responsible for everything that goes into making it profitable. That isn't so unless that's what was mutually agreed to and it's being paid for. Otherwise, beyond it being designed and functional the rest is up to the site owner.

bwelford

10:28 am on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You should fire your web designer if:

3% of the likely target audience will have problems in seeing the web pages because of cross-browser non-compatibility, or

the website is in FRAMES, or

web pages that a visitor might want to print are unprintable, or

links don't work as they should, or

stacks of typos, or ...

I could go on, but

stever

10:33 am on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Fire the designer (or programmer or SEO) if they appear to believe that the normal rules of commerce (such as punctuality, responsibility, communication and service) don't apply to web industry businesses.

Believe it or not, you have a right to demand and expect the same standards as you would with any other service industry.

(And, equally, they have the right to expect the same level of professionalism from you - such as copy, images and payment delivered when agreed. But that's another thread!)

shinyblue

12:42 pm on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When they put hidden links back to their site in the code. Like with a single-pixel transparent .gif, or by linking the 'p' in the copyright notice and turning off the link underline and color in the CSS.

mattglet

4:12 pm on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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shinyblue-

That has to be the funniest thing I've read in a while. I assume that has happened to you?

shinyblue

9:40 pm on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm a web designer myself and recently bought another web design business where the person did this. I was like "uh oh...". Needless to say I could have researched that better. But it turned out OK in the end. I think he just didn't know any better.

vkaryl

11:19 pm on Jul 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Lot of that going around.... I found out just Friday that the person who does the website for my soon-to-be-ex-employer has been doing the 1x1 pixel thing. She said when I brought it up that she was told by "so-and-so" (a local quasi-professional designer - I say that because IMO his sites have BLOAT and are generally NOT functional, but that's just my opinion of course) that not only was this perfectly legal, logical, and permissible, but in any case no one would ever know.

While I really wanted to pitch a hissy-fit, I didn't. I have to deal with the folks in this very small net community here, and while my last name (due to marriage) is one of the "oldies but goodies" here, so is his. AND he's one of my husband's second cousins *sigh*. So I just suggested that there were other better more up-front ways of doing same.... I think she got the point....