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Verisign using questionable tactics?

Is Verisign trying to muscle out its competitors?

         

MrNick

3:36 pm on Jan 24, 2002 (gmt 0)



I host an OpenSRS register. Most of my observations come from me trying to deal with Verisign in that capacity. Although I have spoken with several other Registrars and they are seeing these same tactics.

When someone creates a new DNS server using a registrar other than Verisign it is suposed to be entered into the master database that Verisign is still maintaining. The problem is that it is not happening! We have spoken with Verisign and thier response was to instruct us that we had to fill out a DNS registration form on THEIR site! This alone makes me furious! How much confidence can we give my customer if they have to go to Verisign to do anything.. It's like saying "well, we are not a real registrar but hey Verisign IS". To make matters worse I have found that even after filling the Verisign DNS registration form out it takes at least 3 to 4 weeks to actually happen and only happens at all if you make many aggresive calls to Verisign!

The latest tactic I have seen Verisign using is to ignore domain transfers. Doing a domain transfer is a 3 step process. First the user goes to the new registrars site and requests the transfer. A message is sent out to the administrative contact for the domain that has to be acknowledged to authorize the transfer. Then an email goes out to your old registrar that has to be acknowledged as well. Lately it appears that Verisign is simply ignoring these. I have seen many domains pass the administrative contact authorization but fail the registrar transfer. This seems to happen only with Verisign. The last domain transfer from Verisign that I was part of it seems to me that Verising is trying to extort money from the domain holder. The domain was expired and Verisign stated that the user would have to pay at least 1 more year with Verisign before they would authorize the transfer! Yikes! Can they be for real? Do they expect the user to pay for service that they will not be receiveing? Or are they hoping that the user will simply give up and keep their domain registered with Verising?

My next step is to go to ICANN and see if they can help. Also, if you have experienced anything similar when dealing with Verisign please help me spread the word so we can stop this and really get to the competitive registartion service that ICANN invisioned.

Nick Powers

MaliciousDan

3:43 pm on Jan 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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We've seen a lot of the same here in our office, verisign is losing it's business and is getting extremely agressive... they make the IRS look good.

Brett_Tabke

4:02 pm on Jan 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have seen the same with transfers for two years. I tried to xfer a fellow admins domain for them with 45 days to go before the expiration date, it still isn't transfered (this was early last fall). I've never been able to create dns servers anywhere but netsol.

john316

5:02 pm on Jan 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Your state attorney generals' office is usually the best place to start with complaints about overt monopoly tactics. I would suggest a letter to the appropiate office in your state along with a cc to verisign.

This smells an awful lot like the "slamming" that was so prevalent with the long distance companies.

WebGuerrilla

5:45 pm on Jan 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't think it is just Verisign. Register.com is also resorting to some fairly strong arm tactics to try and stop the OpenSRS bleeding.

Just last week, I initiated a transfer on a Thursday morning. The sent me an email at 10:00 pm on Friday night that said I had until Monday at 5:00 pm to respond to the transfer request.

When I clicked on the link at 9:00 am Monday morning, their site told me that mu window of opportunity had expired. It took over two hours of on-hold time to get them to honor the transfer.

MrNick

6:33 pm on Jan 24, 2002 (gmt 0)



2 hours is nothing.. with Verisign I have seen transfers take weeks, months. Lately they just ignore them completly I guess they are banking on users just paying thier high rates rather than face the wrath of thier poor technical support!

Nick Powers

p.s. I got this story listed on [geekstreet.ca...]

pete

6:22 am on Jan 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Been through it as well.

Tried to transfer a set of domains via the old antequated email authentication process. They all failed!

some more complimentary commentary regarding Verisign here [webmasterworld.com]