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AOL Postmaster rejecting e:mail

What is the deal?

         

Liane

12:47 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Of late, I am getting my mail (in response to customer inquires) bounced back from almost all AOL addresses.

This is ridiculous! A potential client submits an inquiry, I answer with the info requested ... (which is quite time consuming), and two or three days later, I get the message bounced back.

There is a line within the message saying: "X-Declude-Sender: myaddress@myhost.com [my IP address]

Now, I have figured out that I'm blocked ... but why? How can I get this fixed? Can I get it fixed?

This is costing a lot of money in lost sales, not to mention lost time.

I don't send out any mass mailings. I don't have any sort of mailing list and I don't e:mail anyone unless they have specifically requested info.

bcolflesh

1:13 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You need to be added to their whitelist:

[webmasterworld.com...]

Liane

6:00 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Many thanks for that. After spending a couple of hours looking into this whole "white list" thing, I have discovered that our internet provider (Cable & Wirelesss) does not and cannot supply static DNS.

The head office is located in Barbados and all e:mail messages are routed through there. They tried to explain why they can't supply static DNS info ... but I really didn't understand what the heck he was saying.

Anyway, that alone makes me and everyone else in this country ineligible to send e:mail to AOL users ... although we can recieve their mail!

This is the most preposterous situation I have ever heard of and its impacting my business substantially.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

vkaryl

6:08 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Check with the huge providers - AOL/Compuserve, Earthlink, etc. See if they have any local dialups where you are (don't know about Barbados, but I have a friend on Grand Bahama who uses Earthlink). If so, that might be an option....

bcolflesh

6:18 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone have any suggestions?

Use a third-party mailing list provider.

Liane

6:20 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am in the British Virgin Islands and unfortunately, Cable & Wireless has a death grip on the whole country. They have no competition here whatsoever. No other service is available. :(

Liane

6:23 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Use a third-party mailing list provider.

UM ... since the advent of e:mail, my sole experience has been here in the BVI. I have no idea what a third party mailing list provider is? In addition, this is not mailing list sort of stuff I am talking about. It is individual responses to those who have been on my web site and are requesting information. Each e:mail is written specifically in response to their questions.

Would this third party thing still work?

kalos

7:26 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes. Think of it as a seperate internet provider that only sends your email(s). So instead of sending mail through your ISP's mail servers you would configure your mail program (eudora/thunderbird/outlook) to use the mail hosting provider's servers.

While you may not be able to have a static IP address all the time (if you are hosting your own mail server(s)), you should still be able to retain your IP lease without problem if your server(s) are on all the time. The same thing happens with my cable modem. They claim that I may lose this IP address and therefore want to charge an arm and a leg for a static one yet I have _always_ retained the same IP address barring any prolonged downtime of over a day.

richlowe

7:35 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Go to some place like everyone.net and sign up for an email account and send from there. That should get around the issue.

Liane

7:36 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Kalos,

So I would have to buy a server and then make sure I have power 100% of the time ... is that right?

If so, Yikes! That means buying a generator as our power goes off on the island on a regular basis. During hurricanes, we are often down for 4 to 5 and up to 10 days. I know how much a generator will cost, how much does a server cost?

Liane

7:42 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Go to some place like everyone.net and sign up for an email account and send from there. That should get around the issue.

That's certainly not ideal ... but it would work in a pinch. I was just hoping to find a solution which wasn't quite so inconvenient. All my standard replies are in my Outlook Express files. I copy and paste them ino the reply, edit to tailor to the individual request and off it goes.

I guess I can jump back and forth from the browser to Outlook and do the same thing. Sigh. I thought technology was supposed to make things easier ... not harder. Dag nabbed AOL ... why does anyone use their stupid e:mail anyway?

<added>

My hosting company offers static IP addresses for web sites. if I buy that package (its pretty expensive) would I then be able to get a static IP e:mail addresses as well? Would that work?

[edited by: Liane at 7:50 pm (utc) on Aug. 11, 2004]

kalos

7:47 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, only meant that if you were already running your own web hosting. As has been mentioned, just look for an inexpensive mail hosting package. I've seen them from $5 USD per month up to $50 USD per month depending on how many accounts you want and how much storage you need.

Until you get it sorted out I'd recommend adding a notice on your web form (where people request more info) that you have had problems with AOL subscribers receiving email and request an alternate email account until it can be successfully resolved.

Liane

7:51 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Until you get it sorted out I'd recommend adding a notice on your web form (where people request more info) that you have had problems with AOL subscribers receiving email and request an alternate email account until it can be successfully resolved.

Did that this morning! :)

DaveAtIFG

8:30 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just a thought, perhaps your hosting company offers SMTP (outgoing email service) for a few dollars per year. I KNOW they have POP (incoming email service) and web based email service.

Liane

8:53 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yep ... that though occured to me too. I have written to the host and waiting for a reply. Fingers crossed. :)

richlowe

9:04 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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everyone has POP and SMTP access. You could (and I do) make it work just like your ISP.