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I tried to answer junk mail

         

grandpa

11:36 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday I was browsing thru the topics of my junk mail and one item caught my eye. I opened it up and the content was enough to get my interest.

Someone had taken the time to craft a well written letter and then included a link for a response. The link was no good at all. No such resource, nothing to find on any search engine, nada, zip, zilch, zero. What a shame.

and no, I didn't bother to respond to the return address... it clearly stated I should respond to the link

isitreal

11:43 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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grandpa, sad news, by clicking on the link you confirmed that your email address is a current and valid email address, that makes it much more valuable to spammers.

This is why the operative word is 'never' either view or open or respond to anything in any spam email, it's always lies and tricks. Many people make the mistake of believing that if they don't actually click on the email to open it, but just use the preview pane, that's ok, but, sad news again, it's not ok, in that email is probably an image with src="update_spam_email_valid_sender.php?id=lskjdflsdjfsdlfjk

which will happily verify that you exist, you are looking at that email address, and that the spammers can now sell that email address in the high value confirmed email list.

why the internet seems to attract the very worst and vile elements of humanity is another topic of course.

grandpa

11:51 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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by clicking on the link you confirmed that your email address is a current and valid email address, that makes it much more valuable to spammers.

My address is already a pretty valuable asset to spammers :)

No, I think this was legit (but I've been wrong before). Since the URL was invalid it seems like it would be hard to determine anything about me reading the message, which by all appearances was nothing more than a text message.

encyclo

12:14 am on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Golden rule: Never reply to spammers. Never. Under any circumstances. isitreal's right with what he says, and there's the rest of it (much, much more than you'd imagine).

Just hope no harm's done here. Don't forget too, spammers are also stupid - broken links are not so unusual - but you really didn't want to buy what they were offering.

vkaryl

2:01 am on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Um. *Alarm* *Question*

AAAACCCCCKKKKKKKK! I shouldn't have been BOUNCING spam emails? That's a "response", right?

Oy. I have a really bad feeling about this....

isitreal

2:18 am on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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bouncing spam is probably pretty safe, although I wouldn't do it, it's better to just let it vanish into a default disgard type thing in the email server, bounce is good for email addresses you've stopped using but that clients may still use for some reason, just include a bounce text message that does not include an email address per se but does include some way for a real person to find out how to reach you, website, whatever.

spammers almost never use real return email addresses, I'd say never but I'm sure one or two do it by accident once in a while, since as encyclo says, they, being the true sewer of the computer world, don't tend to be very bright, just download some software, take over a server somewhere, buy a cdrom of email addresses, and you're ready to go.

But for anyone else reading this thread, remember, don't view, don't open, don't respond to any spam or spam like email, just delete immediately. If you are using an email client set to preview emails, stop it, turn off that feature, which can also trigger certain viruses if I remember right. In Outlook express, that's 'view->layout->show preview pane', checked by default.

encyclo

1:11 pm on Jun 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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vkaryl - bouncing is usually fairly safe, but is often pointless - even the most stupid of the spammers know to put a fake return address, so your bounce is just increasing the amount of wasted resources caused by spam. Blackholing everything is usually the best way.

And following on from isitreal, you should also always use an email client program which doesn't load external graphics - the old trick of a 1x1 pixel transparent GIF loaded of a remote server with a unique ID to verify your email address is still very popular.

Don't forget the Rules of spam [groups.google.ca]!