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The importance and power of personal (web) projects

BTW my oldest site is turning 22 years

         

explorador

6:49 pm on Sep 9, 2020 (gmt 0)

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My oldest site is turning 22 years this 2020, the second on the list: 20 years (just to mention two). Profitable. Money making enough for what? to buy a house? yes. Enough to quit the daily job? NO!, never. This is not a self advertising-self-centered-thread and absolutely, no intention to celebrate 20+ years of something, far from it. It's to discus the power of personal (web) projects.

Hobby/passion sites should mean something, you should be working on one right now. Web Master World is by far one of the few places I have found where some members talked about passion/hobby projects, things turned into profitable and even authority sites. Several times people trying to create or establish something, were told to put effort on hobbies and passions, and small comments were shared about personal projects. Years go by and I'm still finding new positive implications on this. And it's been key for business in my case.

Let's get back to the opening paragraph, conversations are easily filled with concepts about money, success, latest technologies, etc, and most go after "money", while VERY FEW engage on trying something, developing a skill and getting better on doing something that should have meaning and should suppose to last any period of time greater than... 1 year. One year? yes, I look back and many clients an even ex work places are not around anymore, their great ideas gone, their websites gone, etc. Even websites that I created for them became another JPG (screenshot) because their sites are not online anymore, mine still are. BTW just cleaned my business card box today and it was funny how much power, success and money they projected: 99% of them are GONE, even despite their confident words that it should last in order to approach the other "next level" business they have in list.

I worked at places and had several business experiments on my own, but nothing has been so consistent, stable and profitable over the years as my hobby sites, no kidding. And this comes absolutely unplanned, I never thought things would go this way, but most importantly, any conversation with friends and colleagues often turns into what the previous paragraph describes: money, power, success. Me? funny enough I didn't aim for that, and I quickly learned NOT TO openly talk about this. You can't always keep things secret, but I'm unable to share in short sentences how not revealing I'm behind or I'm the owner of such projects has been absolutely positive, again: I didn't aim for what most people aimed, most want easy and fast money, and their picture on some newspaper article.

You can't say you have a hobby or passion if you don't put your mind to work on it, passion and personal projects ARE delicate words, it's something I would be interested on evaluating as a key aspect when hiring someone. Why? If someone tells me they love something, have a passion but have no proof about it or won't dedicate time to it, I have no reason to believe that's true. Sadly a lot of people regardless of what they say, they just want money... or fame, people recognizing them as successful, and that makes them vulnerable. Related? Lots of people around the world consider being married a good indicator for specific job positions, they explain: it means something, it means you can commit and dedicate to bigger things that can last many years. (You can judge and agree-disagree with their views all you want, or say you are single but responsible, etc, it's valid, but it's not about that, it's about the practical point being made there).

It's about honesty. Yet this is where lots of people disagree, many create "successful" products to sell but they don't use them themselves. Many sell services that they don't use themselves (instead they hire someone else). And many web creators talking about SEO or developing great ideas don't even have a website on their own surviving the 1 year mark, and sorry but parked domains or dead websites don't count. This is an unconscious clear message that most people wouldn't hire themselves. It's also about trust and stability, because many experienced clients want someone who can handle their business, systems and information management solutions for more than one year, things that actually last over time, yet most people offering the solution can't even take care of a goldfish or understand what's like to have something for more than 1, 2, 3 years, scalability, stability.

Same for so many ultra experienced developers in whatever technology like PHP, LUA, Python, CSS, supposed ultra optimized sites, etc, but their personal website was built on Wordpress... a free template included. This has been criticized for people in the field, and don't discuss WP as valid, it's-about-understanding-the-point.

[edited by: explorador at 7:07 pm (utc) on Sep 9, 2020]

explorador

7:04 pm on Sep 9, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Honesty and trust I said? I was recently talking with the staff of this company wanting to hire my services, owner first in line. They sell solar panels, off grid solutions and all related products to use solar energy, reduce expenses on electricity or going absolutely off the grid, neat!. During our conversation, not that it matters big deal, personal projects were brought to attention, and I was happy to explain how it matters in many ways, and business oriented: you can work for many clients but, 10, 15, 20 years later? good luck, many will not be around as examples of your work.

Then I tried to explain with an example: imagine your case, clients wanting to use solar energy and all the benefits, because solar is great, huh? "-yes!- they replied", then the client wants to invest a lot of money and ask you if this is the right way to go, it is, right? "-yes!- they replied again", then usually in doubt, clients will ask you direct questions about the stability, quality, performance, etc, right? "oh yes, and there we explain how amazingly great this is, an investment for a lifetime" they said. And out of the blue I said

-Probably the client will ask you what kind of setup you have at home-

Silence inundated the office. I continued: "the client will ask you, how does it work for you? because you... have this, right?". And the answer was a complete silence. Turns out this successful company depends absolutely on the grid at their place, and everyone including the owner depend 100% on the grid, not even a solar panel for charging their phones. And I didn't feel bad for saying "well, a client hearing you selling this, while you don't use it on anything..., will doubt on your pitch, it says you don't believe in it, many would not buy from you because you want them to buy something you don't believe in".

It's an example, you can agree or disagree all you want, but the point is clear (usually people enjoy discussing out of the point being made). BTW, I also enjoy the freedom of solar panels, so this even applies to me (positively). I often find places discussing how to get rich fast, I walk out of there. Forums? yes. When someone posts here about it, it is quite refreshing to read comments where money/power are not the dominant concepts, and as usual I advice on what worked great for me: put hands to work on your hobbies and passions, start there. No, it doesn't have to turn into a business, yes it could, but the thing is you can develop a lot of skills with easy focused on what you enjoy, and those skills can be profitable along the way or for the future.

Hiring someone, I wouldn't discriminate if they are married or not as an indicator of commitment, I would just try to measure how much they actually invest on the things they say to love, if any, and if they don't do anything about the things they say they love, that's a sign difficult to believe such words, better say "I have no goals or passions, I will just work for you and make money because I'm hungry". Well, after all jobs are made to earn money in order to eat, right?

So, work on your personal projects or passions, and if you don't have one, you should start right now. And don't confuse this with the big mistake of falling in love with your ideas (a quite known negative concept around failed entrepreneurs).

*** My first language is Spanish, not English, is not easy to make writings in other language as fluid and easy to read as I can do in my original language. My developed skills creating content or as a former editor don't translate literally into other languages.

tangor

11:37 pm on Sep 9, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Have no concerns regarding your communication skills in a second language. Your contents and intents are well-expressed.

tangor. ... who started with a hobby passion site and, since 1996, has not made a dime off of it. :)

explorador

2:23 pm on Sep 10, 2020 (gmt 0)

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Tangor: Have no concerns regarding your communication skills in a second language. Your contents and intents are well-expressed.

Great, thanks!

tangor. ... who started with a hobby passion site and, since 1996, has not made a dime off of it. :)

Congratulations for your dedication and putting your skills to work on what you like and enjoy, that's exactly my point. Making money out of it, to me, is way more than secondary, not the main reason for the projects or the thread. It's sad (in my view) how in most cases conversations only turn around money and "success", worse if people don't have a single thing on their own (like a persona project), only good at serving one and another master. Money was mentioned here just as being part of the surprising outcome over the years, and a message to newcomers who instead of aiming just for money, should aim for something with more meaning.

tangor

9:33 am on Sep 11, 2020 (gmt 0)

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The myth of google gold continues ... and for some that does happen.

Yet reality is that most will never achieve their dream of generating wealth from the web. The game is rigged, and has been for the last 10-15 years.

The hobby site is where I do my experimenting, share my passion, and take a little pride that it is now internationally recognized as an authority site for the subject material. That flatters my vanity, yet at the same time it acknowledges that I do know what I speak. :)

Since the site was about sharing knowledge about the subject and never was intended for revenue stream, it has been ad free from day one, and remains that way even now. Though I do accept donations to keep it active and, surprisingly, I get one to three donations per year!