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Fryman

12:29 pm on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thank you all for your help at my previous questions.

Lets say I have a website that sells fruit. I have a top position at Google for the keywords "grapes online". Cool, I think, but then I go to Overture and see that those keywords were searched only 250 times. I also see that "online fruit store" has 4500 searches, and those keywords would describe my site well.
So, I change my title, metatags, description, rewrite the text, trying to optimize the page. How long would it take for me to be able to check if these new keywords actually bring my site up at on the search engine? (speaking of Google). Would I loose the previous top site for my old keywords? Is there a way to see what position I get with this keywords, or do I have to browse at al the results until I find my page listed?

Also, If I my website has 8 pages, all of them with a PR of 3, and then I create another 3 pages, would they get a PR3 also? In how much time?

Thanks again for your help.

ThomasB

7:04 am on Feb 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think it may work, but it may also not work.

Any changes may result in better/worse rankings for specific keyphrases. It's hard to predict where you will rank with other keyphrases, but it's pretty sure to say that you will lose the old positions if there's some kind of competition in this area.

I would focus on a good topic for your site that describes it best and not target for maximizing the number of visitors.

tfanelli

1:02 am on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ok here is one way to tell if Google has updated its listings to reflect your current page. Download the google toolbar and use the feature to view the cached page, this will let you know which page google last spidered. If your old page comes up then it hasnt spidered your page since the last update. If the new page comes up then you can try searching for the page using the new keywords and if all goes well you should see your page. There are automated tools to help check your current page position in the engines but the ususally cap out at the first 10-30 results so I like to check it manually. If you set your google preferences to display the most listings per results page (I think its 100) then do a Find for the URL you can tell within a few seconds if you are listed on that page.

mep00

3:34 am on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would focus on a good topic for your site that describes it best and not target for maximizing the number of visitors.
Both are important. Usually a topic can be phrased in more than one way; ideally, a ballance should try to be reached. In other words, choose the phrase which will help in the SE's the most without significantly sacrificing having a meaningfull topic phrase. The bottom line is that if noone is visiting your site, the perfect discription is pointless.