Website not found: Error somewhere. - ?

[oakmet]

I built my website in Jan/Feb this years (2010), a non-business site for motorsports enthusiasts, - records, championships, etc. www.speedwaychampions.kk5.org .
I know it takes time, but after 6mths its still not being found by Ggl. search engines. A commercial SEO Co’y has just confirmed my suspicions that something is seriously amiss as searching for orig’l text from the home page comes up with nothing.
I have many Links set up from other sites within the sport, and Gg Anal. shows plenty of hits from direct traffic & referring sites. I have created Key Words and Key Desc’pns for each page. In Gg Webmaster Tools the site is listed (prime address,) but not each page. I don’t know about Sitemaps: I’ve gone round and round the Help pages but it just seems iterative, and I get no where, only more confused and despair. I desperately need some help. A poster on another forum offered and made some changes, then re-started from scratch, they said, (and created a new acct with a Ggmail address. -?) Its not improved: - worse, I think.
I thought I was pc literate, helping friends set up their pc’s with internet links, email addresses, etc, but this website/SEO business is a totally new language again, which I just don’t understand. Help.

[artek]

In G Webamster Tools go to "Labs" and then "Fetch as Googlebot" each page of your website by coping and pasting exact page links just to make sure that your pages are being found.

[oakmet]

Okay, Now what? (I've read intro notes on Labs and Fetch, but I won't know what it is that I'm to look for, - ?)

[artek]

When you click fetch button Googlebot will follow URL to visit your page than GWMT will indicate under "Status" if it was a "Success". You can click on "Success" to see if your whole page source code is there. If nothing is missing you are OK. If Googlebot is fetching successfully all your pages than your page source code could be a problem like:

Your title tags are the same for every page.
<title>Every page should have different one</title> it will indicate to G what the particular page is about.

Your description tags are incorrect and they should look more like this:
<meta name="Description" content="your description here"> and again different for each page.

Your keyword tags are incorrect and they should look like this:
<meta name="Keywords" content="your keywords here">

[artek]

By the way oakmet I just noticed that this is your first post so:

Welcome to WebmasterWorld!


I have also sent you sticky so check your StickyMail.

[oakmet]

Okay, - checked your points, thank: -
Title, Descr'n and Key words are all the same ! and are from my single initial entry in Feb, They were amended in april, when I set keywords and descr'ns for each page, which I can still see on my website editor page under metadata !
What to do to get them indiv'l ?
I also note that whilst the Homepage 'Fetch as Ggblot' includes my full text, the other pages do not. -Why's that ?

[artek]

oakmet, You have put together great website about sport that I like and used to watch on TV for hours as a kid. I have to admit viewing your site triggered my nostalgia big time.

However the problem is that you have built your website like a great looking house without concrete foundations in the middle of muddy soil. It is sinking. The good news is that all the problems can be fixed but you have to start from ground up.

To start with, it is good idea to secure a good .COM domain name for your website "foundations" plus few domain name extensions like .net, .org, etc. to clean up the neighborhood.

To give you "good head start" and to make sure that you get them! I have secured and registered for a year your speedw…hampions in a .COM, .NET, .ORG, and .INFO versions.

If you want them, I will transfer these five domains to you free as a gift, not strings attached. I think you deserve little help for a great idea and hard work.

Next, I think you need to find inexpensive, semi-dedicated hosting to move your website on your own "dirt".

Than you can rebuild it with one of the easier to use website design software to give you full control of the every page source code. You also do not need java script on every page.

[oakmet]

OK Art, thanks for the Domains which I accept. Please put them into place in my name on hold. (Do you have name & Eaddress?)

Queries before any changes:
i)If & when the domain is changed from present what happens to all the Links I've got put in on other speedway sites? Would they still connect, or would I have to do the rounds again?
ii)I use the present host because its free and its also ads-free: will the other(s) you're proposing also be? (I'm a pensioner.)Can I look at a few and check them out please.
iii)Source-codes & Java-scripts: These are alien to me, How are they affecting the present problem? Can't we put them right?

[oakmet]

PM rec’d, thanks, but not necess’ly understood, - there’s a lot of language here new to me, - terms I’ve heard, yes, but not worked with or applied. Ignorant of either Flash or text/html versions, I just built the site from simple logic. Yet there are many, many people who’ve done the same via Moonfruit host and presumably come up with the same site format , but don’t have the my problem, SEs are finding them okay.

No one has told me yet if having only the home page listed within GgWbsrTools is okay or if each page should appear on that list. Likewise I’ve not got Sitemaps onto GgWTls. Shouldn’t I get these on first? Are they needed?

Maybe everything looks like the first page to Gg, but Gg’s not finding the home page! Why not?

Where I’m coming from is as follows: Its taken 6mths to get acklgmt that something’s wrong. Only if essential do I want to start all over again and take another 6mths, with every one saying “you have to wait, it takes Gg a few months,” only to concede again after a year that all is not as it needs to be. My first choice would be to try to rectify present issues, get Gg Wbmstr Tools, etc. set up as necess’y.

“there should be a way put your text content in an element (such as a div) with a fragment identifier and to use swfobject to replace content of that identified fragment with the flash object.” How ?

“if you redo flash to use the same urls as the html version for navigation and to look for the relative url "nationals/4538412215" instead of the fragment "#/nationals/4538412215" that should make things work better in the long run.”
How ?

I’m not sure if you’re telling me that the present ….kk5.org URL in external Links will still find a new … .com URL. - ?

(OK, I’ve switched sound off .)

Your efforts appreciated. Lets keep moving forward a little at a time.
CJ

[artek]

OK Art, thanks for the Domains which I accept. Please put them into place in my name on hold. (Do you have name & Eaddress?)

You welcome oakmet. I talked to my domain registrar account executive today. He advised me that he can transfer domains in five minutes, without any cost if you open your own free account with them. I have used them for ten years for all my domains and never had any problems. I will send all information to your StyckyMail Monday.

If & when the domain is changed from present what happens to all the Links I've got put in on other speedway sites? Would they still connect, or would I have to do the rounds again?

I do not think you will have big problem with it. You got them easy in the first place, didn't you? You are dealing with friendly sport enthusiasts; I bet you one simple letter may fix the problem.

I use the present host because its free and its also ads-free: will the other(s) you're proposing also be? (I'm a pensioner.)Can I look at a few and check them out please.

Dissent hosting is cheap these days 4 -7 USD per month and you can have five hundred pages website. We will find something good and cheap.

Source-codes & Java-scripts: These are alien to me, How are they affecting the present problem? Can't we put them right?

I do not think you need them but I am not sure what exactly you want on your website.

Please get familiar with WebmasterWorld' StyckyMail and sent me short TEST email.

I will talk about the rest of your questions tomorrow or Monday.

[artek]

No one has told me yet if having only the home page listed within GgWbsrTools is okay or if each page should appear on that list.

Every page should appear on list.

I’ve not got Sitemaps onto GgWTls. Shouldn’t I get these on first? Are they needed?

Definitely yes but first you need to fix title and description of pages to make them uniquely describe every page.

Maybe everything looks like the first page to Gg, but Gg’s not finding the home page! Why not?

It is possible that G has found your Zlata Prilba page as a first page and is treating now every other page of your website as a duplicate content due to the same titles and descriptions on every other page.

Its taken 6mths to get acklgmt that something’s wrong. Only if essential do I want to start all over again and take another 6mths, with every one saying “you have to wait, it takes Gg a few months,” only to concede again after a year that all is not as it needs to be. My first choice would be to try to rectify present issues, get Gg Wbmstr Tools, etc. set up as necess’y.

No it will not take another 6 mo. You got your good content already. Your home page title is OK and home page description text is OK. Problem is in your pages code, tags are incorrect and they should look like this:

<meta name="Description" content="you describe your page here">

Change title and description of every other pages to uniquely describe them, and fetch each page again as I told you earlier with GWMTs.

[oakmet]

Art, - Thanks for actioning the Domains. Now I must steal myself back to the problem. I've gone thru the HTML tutorials and can now better understand what I'm seeing in the Source Code.
As advised, I set stall to change the content Descr'pns & Keywords of each page with those prev'ly generated and visible to me (whilst editing) in the host editor page, but then I check myself with these realisations;
- Locating them via Source Code I am NOT logged in. When I log in, instead of a 5-page html I only get a 3-page html with NO Descr'n or Keywords showing.
So is that he correct loc'n to make the changes? If so it means anyone can access and modify or corrupt my site. Surely not ?

In response to question from another user, the host site responded with the following: I'm not sure of if significance, but it may enlighten you:-
The HTML version is not meant to represent the site but to assist SEO (so your images will be out of sync.) The site is not meant to be viewed in HTML. This is one of the things we are working on - as Joe said we have two PHDs working on algorythms - to enable better representation of the Flash in the HTML. But this will take time. Our software is Flash based and the HTML we produce will generally only ever be a representation of what is created in the Flash. And while we do work on refactoring the HTML to better represent the sites on screens of varying sizes the site will still be Flash.

[oakmet]

Art, - This past week I've been trying alternative web-building sites but have not found a free one that that can display tables (which are the prime raison-d'etre of my site,) on the page. Several can provide a link to my tables, as xls or pdf, to click and then open, but not allow me to embed as a document, as per my current website, and be ever-present.
What were the ones you were thinking of when you proposed transferring?

[oakmet]

Hi Art - Great news, re above post. I've now found a site builder/host. See my Sticky which will follow, for detail and query on next step(s).

[artek]

Sorry, I've been traveling.

Do they allow to use your new domain name?

[oakmet]

You can move your existing website to OLSB,
You can redirect a domain. They have a proforma window. (I presume its now okay to use my ".... .com" even though its 'empty' at present.)

[piatkow]

Just coming back to the site after some time out. Looks like the original question is answered but my first thought on the problem wasn't mentioned and it is a simple check that doesn't require any use of special software. It is always the first check that I would carry out in such a case.

Simply switch off all search filters and try again. Sites do get mis-classified as "adult".

[oakmet]

Art,
I've now got my website completed in M/S's OLSB and have switched it to my .com domain okay.
I next need to get it into Gg WMTs, but I think it will be essential to first purge the prev entries in there against my name/e-address etc, esp'ly as the site title is the same as the old M/fruit and because this pc is in an "always remember" mode.
Can you advise the steps please, (for this a likely area that causes my first site to fail to be found.)

Will the Gg Analytic settings (and assoc'd Ggmail address) also impact or are they quite indep't to what we enter for GgWMTs?
Oakmet.