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Same Domain, Many Companies, How would you handle this situation?

         

lmwood

3:43 pm on Mar 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Hello All,

I'm working for a company that has many distributors worldwide. Each distributor is its own company but at the same time is branded with our main company’s name.
e.g. Our main company is in the UK and we sell to our distributors in USA, Ireland, etc.

We produce each distributor’s catalogue and give them a website. (Sub directory of our domain).

The current solution works as we have links to the country specific sub directories on the main landing page.

e.g.
www.yourdomain.com > flags linking to each sub directory (country site).

My problem
I’ve recently joined the company as the web master/developer and I’ve just rebuilt the UK website and it’s doing well but now I’m at the point where I need to roll out the website to the country specific partners. I want to keep the same code base and use separate database’s to split the products/customers.

So I've been trying to figure out the best way to approach this. I either keep the current sub directory solution I mentioned above (which was not done by me) or go with another solution to my problem.

Here's some solutions I've come up with.

Solution One
Have one website url yourdomain.com and use geolocation to serve the right content and pricing.

Pro’s
A user won’t have to choose a country unless they have been given the wrong one.
No duplicated content

Con’s
Geolocation isn’t perfect and will give users the wrong content sometimes.
How will a search engine see this?

Solution Two
Have many tld's yourdomain.co.uk, yourdomain.com, yourdomain.de, etc.

Pro’s
Each distributor has their own website which is good from their point of view.

Con’s
Each website sells the same products thus diluting SERP’s

How would you handle this situation? Any more ideas?

Thanks in Advance.

phranque

4:48 pm on Mar 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

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whether you change to ccTLDs is a complicated question.
what kind of link equity do you have, for example?
what kind of multiple server/location issues might you have eventually?

if you decide to stay with a single generic tld, i believe you can specify your preferred geographic target per subdirectory:
"Geotargeting - Webmaster Tools Help" [google.com]
that should help with country search issues.

regarding the geolocation, your "best guess" may be based on IP or browser settings or even referrer, but your visitor should be able to easily change the country/content choice and retain that setting.

creeking

6:38 pm on Mar 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

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keep the current subdirectory solution.

I didn't see a good reason listed for changing it. screwing with that means the webmaster is screwing with sales and marketing.
any changes to that (IMO) should be approved at the highest levels of the companies around the world.


fwiw, also consider subdomains (ar.example.com, ca.example.com, etc.).

lmwood

8:31 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the responses.

At the moment I've rebuilt the UK site on a new dedicated web server and as a result the uk site is already using a sub domain but as I move the sites over I'll need a defined game plan.

Hence the reason for the planning now.

The www.yourdomain.com is around 5-6 years old and has a good solid traffic stream.

phranque

11:12 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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what have you done with all your previous urls?

kaled

11:36 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Using geolocation to serve different content on the same url seems a really bad idea. That leaves two possibilities being uk.example.com and www.example.com/uk with geolocation used to perform redirection.

If your users are technically literate then they may prefer subdomains, however, others are likely to type in www.uk.example.com if you use subdomains - these can then start to look like phishing urls!

www.example.com/uk is clear, simple and users understand it. That just leaves search engines to consider. Since the use of country codes in this way is fairly common, you would think that search engines would understand them, however, you should probably check this.

Kaled.

lmwood

1:51 pm on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Phranque:
All the url's that pointed to /uk have been redirected to the subdomain.

Kaled:
Why does geolocation seem like a bad idea, could you explain your reasoning please?

Also the content will be almost the same apart from the non-english languages.

kaled

5:30 pm on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Why does geolocation seem like a bad idea, could you explain your reasoning please?

Quite apart from anything else, it means that you'll have major search engine problems - how can google index your site in different languages if different language versions occupy the same urls?

By all means, use geolocation to redirect from www.example.com to www.example.com/uk but using geolocation for language-cloaking is a really bad idea.

Kaled.

creeking

5:39 pm on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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will the companies around the world need to update their brochures, catalogs, and advertising because the this?

phranque

12:05 am on Mar 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Have one website url yourdomain.com and use geolocation to serve the right content and pricing.

are you talking about redirecting to subdirectories here or are you talking about using content negotiation?
"HTTP/1.1: Content Negotiation" [w3.org]
"Content Negotiation - Apache HTTP Server" [httpd.apache.org]