Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 184.108.40.206
Forum Moderators: phranque
Jonathan Schwartz, Sun's CEO, says:-
"From the Java platform touching nearly every business system on earth, powering billions of consumers on mobile handsets and consumer electronics, to the convergence of storage, networking and computing driven by the Solaris operating system and Sun's SPARC and x64 systems. Together with Oracle, we'll drive the innovation pipeline to create compelling value to our customer base and the marketplace."
Immediate thoughts turn to what happens to MySQL?
Oracle are well invested into Java already, so I don't see any issues there.
Because of the high complexity of relational database systems, I wouldn't trust a community to pick up the further development of the open source part of MySQL at the same level as the current development has been. Without a full-time highly committed development staff, the open source portion of MySQL effectively dies IMHO once Oracle decides to stop putting effort in it.
If I read benchmarks about scalability PostgreSQL wins. Speed is not the issue too any more.
In fact I think it is very good news for PostgreSQL. MySQL has been bought (indirectly) now for the second time by big players. I would not like to rely on MySQL too much for any open source application because of its uncertain future in the long run.
And even if they do, then I don't fully agree that an open source community won't pick it up and continue it. They would just have to come back to the original business model of MySQL. Heck maybe even Michael Widenius could pick it back-up, but with a billion $ in his pocket now. That would be too hilarious: sell, leave, take open source version back and continue it.
Mysql is big enough that someone else would pick it up. $1 billion is a pocket change when you compare the database market and Mysql market share. Mysql is too big to fail.
How many of us would fork over $x,#*$! just to make sure Mysql is up for another couple of years?
What I fear is, Oracle would inject enough poison to slow MySql and the features that make it popular in the first place.
MySql gets sold> Mysql Enterprise gets released> Oracle is gone
"Michael Widenius, founder and original developer of MySQL, says that most of the leading coders for that project have either left Sun or will be leaving in the wake of Oracle's takeover. To ensure MySQL's survival, he wants to fork from the official version — using his company Monty Program Ab to create what he calls a MySQL "Fedora" project. This raises the larger question of who really owns a commercial open software application: the corporate copyright holders, or the community?"
;) I guess Widenius is up to the task for further developing MySQL. Soon we'll all be running FreeMySQL.
The Falcon engine which is currently in beta may be powerful and versatile enough in the future to replace these three, but future has to prove it. Widenius and his developers have never themselves released a database engine which could match with those in Oracle, MS-SQL or even PostgreSQL. They have always used third party developments for that.
2) InnoDB is open source (dual licensed like MySQL), older versions of MaxDB are open source so it could be forked starting from one versions back. I do not know about BerkleyD, but as it is based on an open source product, it probably is as well.
3) A lot of MySQL users (most?) do not need these engines.
4) If Oracle neglect open source MySQL it will help Postgres which is much more of a threat to their flagship product.