flash site advice please

[jasong]

Ok I am new to this and I did not really understand that google not indexing my website was going to have such an effect and i assumed i would just use ppc anyways I need to get this site indexed and I own all the relevant urls to my site .net com ect and my original plan was to take the .url and make another version of my website or a blog about my website but I heard that if I do this I will get kicked off google not that it really matters I have never been there anyways but would like to be SO WHAT IS THE BEST THING I should do? Also if I change it to a html site my flash site already has thousands of back links good ones not bought or anything but will that hurt me?

[tonynoriega]

changing a flash based site to html should not hurt you.... i took a pure flash site and converted it to html and it actually did better. remember to create absolute paths, drop some good anchor text, keep the SEO basics in place and you should be good. although the SE's are getting better about crawling through flash, i still dont think it beats a good old school html site....

if you create another random site, just to create a few links to you site, its not going to work..

i would try to gain some links from some decent external sites, look into google webmaster tools, and im sure youll get indexed soon enough.

[phranque]

you could provide alternate html content for flash-disabled user agents which would make your site crawlable and therefore indexable by SE's.
one recommended way to do this is with the swfobject javascript tool.

[jg42122]

Thanks let me ask this could I have 1 site and do the.comurl
in flash the .net in html since my flash content cant be read?

[phranque]

welcome to WebmasterWorld [webmasterworld.com], jasong & jg42122!
(are you the same person?)

if you look at how swfobject works, you will see that both flash and html content are contained on the same page.
the div containing html content is overwritten by the flash content once it has been determined that javascript and flash are supported by the user agent.

[jasong]

I am jasong my wife if jg42122

So will I get in trouble by google for having a flash and html website. Here is what happened I got a flash site but no matter what we did Google couldnt read it so I was told I needed an html site so I Got an html site as well I still have the exact same title and url just one is a . com the other is a . net I was told since google cannot read the flash site that it was ok? but now I am hearing that it may not be and this is pretty confusing to me as I know very little about it nor my wife but I dont want to make google mad as I am trying to go about getting listed the proper way. My flash site has been online for nearly a year with 0 pg rank and even in the description all it says is loading
I didnt want to take down the flash site as it costs alot of money and was cheaper to do it this way.

[phranque]

please investigate swfobject [code.google.com]:
- provided, approved and suggested by google.
- used to serve BOTH flash and html from a single url.
- only flash gets shown if the flash plugin is available in the browser.
otherwise (e.g. googlebot) the html is shown.
- once you get swfobject up and running on your .com domain, 301 redirect your .net domain to the .com domain.

[jasong]

Thanks let me ask you this is it ok to have example.com and example.net as long as they are for different keywords?

[edited by: phranque at 8:21 am (utc) on Nov. 19, 2008]
[edit reason] exemplified urls [/edit]

[phranque]

no problem with different content for different tld's.
just be careful if you crosslink your sites and they are not relevant.

[jasong]

Well they are close not exact i am going to have to change the flash site a bit anyways.