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How many pages to get a website indexed and listed?

         

Oimachi2

5:29 am on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I heard that Google needs a minimum of 5 pages to rank your website?

Is that correct?

Can a one page website get high rankings if the industry is not competitive?

For example, would a one page site with about 500 words of original content rank high for the keywords " pink turtle" if optimized or would it need more pages?

jtara

5:37 am on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have sites indexed in Google that consist of one page containing one word (the domain name of the site). I never submitted anything.

Of course, the only search they turn-up for is the domain name, and the domain name minus the ".com".

Once you add content, Google will pick it up.

Oimachi2

5:45 am on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the reply, but how about a one page site with content? About 500 words, optimized for a keyword in a non competitive industry?

For example:

Would a one page website optimized for "plumbers anchorage alaska" work?

Has anyone had success with this?

jtara

4:58 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Ask yourself first what serves your users best.

Does one page get the point across? Is something more needed? If it's 5 pages of fluff, then it's not serving your users - just wasting their time.

Do you think that perhaps the search engines consider such things? I think they do. They'd be stupid not to.

Oimachi2

6:30 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"Ask yourself first what serves your users best."

What I want is to serve is me, not my users!.

I make websites to make money. I'm not a charity.

buckworks

6:37 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You'll make the most money by serving users well.

Serving users IS serving yourself.

A one-page article can rank well if it's good enough to attract links from outside your own network.

jtara

6:41 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What I want is to serve is me, not my users!.

I make websites to make money. I'm not a charity.

I don't know what the nature of your site is - whether you are selling a product, or if your site is advertising-funded.

But in either case, I think you will find that you make money proportionately to serving your users or customers needs.

Have you ever been in business before?

I certainly wouldn't want to do business with somebody whose attitude is "I just want to make money"!

rocknbil

7:28 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What I want is to serve is me, not my users!

The success of "serving you" is going to rely on you revising this position. :-)

It's an old adage that is as true as the day is long - a website only exists, and succeeds, if it solves customer's problems. It doesn't matter if that problem is quenching a gamer fix or finding info about exotic colored widgets. Your success is going to be directly proportionate to how well you can determine what problems you can solve for people, and how you will do it better than anyone else in your niche.

naitsirhc26

8:00 pm on Oct 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Helping to make your customers enjoy your products/information on your website is the only way to go. If you were to only serve yourself; then they probably wouldn't want to come back.

In my own niche, I have tried to be the most helpful, kind, considerate person with dealing with my viewers; and it has helped me to be one of the leading information providers in my niche.

Oimachi2

3:05 am on Nov 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Sorry guys!

I had a few beers too many when I posted the reply "I only want to serve myself"...it's not exactly what I meant.

Of course I care about visitors but not that much. Most visitors are tire kickers, they visit my site and 10 others to get free quotes...nothing very noble about that!

Visitors don't care about our sites and Google doesn't either. Unfortunately it's dog eat dog online these days...DMOZ, Google "doing no evil" ect...is all in the past in my opinion. We now have to compete with eastern Europe, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China and so on...

I sell auto transport leads to Canadian moving companies. Nothing really pretty but it pays the rent and helps to fund my life in Thailand ;) (And NO I'm not a pedophile!)

Cheers!

jtara

4:37 am on Nov 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Of course I care about visitors but not that much.

Attitude adjustment still needed, even without the beer.

There has to be something you can give your visitors that your competitors don't. And something you can do to turn tire-kickers into buyers. Somehow to make the process more hassle-free than with others.

I dunno how your lead process works, or how long it takes to get back to them with a quote. That might be one area for improvement. I know I usually leave any site immediately when they want to email me a quote for something. Half the time, they never do get back to you at all.

You might be able to work with the movers to speed the quote process. Maybe offer a discount if a customer accepts a quote within a certain amount of time. And that amount of time should be ... less than the time for your competitors to provide a quote. Of course, your site would mention your speedy service, with testimonials from happy customers, and the search engines would pick-up on that.

The flip side of tire kicking. They never give you a tire to kick.

And what does this all have to do with search engine indexing? I think the search engines are trying very hard to detect quality service and push it to the top.

Oimachi2

6:37 am on Nov 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Great points you made there.

But the moving companies don't answer emails and don't respond to customers on time...

However it's their problem because they pay per month regardless if they book jobs or not. They still think in the "Yellow Pages" way, just pay without knowing the results.

So that's what I mean by not caring about the end user. I've tried to set up autoresponders, dedicated toll free numbers for them but the moving companies are just not responsive. Fair enough as long as they keep paying me!

My other site on the other hand, one selling web design services? I really care about visitors for that one and do everything in my power to make the site usefull, including site map, glossary and live help. I check my email every 5 minutes also.

But the initial question remains unanswered...

Can a one page website succeed? Is the 5 pages minimum a myth?

Anybody has a 1 page site that ranks well and gets traffic?

pixeltierra

6:03 am on Nov 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If your page is useful, it will be linked to. If it is linked to, Google will index it.

...unless you've made Google unhappy.

buckworks

6:06 am on Nov 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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But the initial question remains unanswered...

Then you weren't paying attention.