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Pre-emailing Newsletter spam-indexing

Are spam filters impacting your opt-in newsletters?

         

cyril kearney

3:35 am on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have begun to see a trend among the webmasters I know that publish newsletters. They have begun passing the newsletter through SpamAsassin to see how high they rate on the spam-index.

They say that spam filtering is becoming a growing problem for them as the seek to deliver opt-in newsletters.

Several note that unsubscribe messages get particularly hard. Is anyone else having a problem and how are you trying to get around it?

Mardi_Gras

12:21 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think EVERYONE is having a problem. I believe it was Tedster who brought up in another thread the "unsubscribe" problem, but I don't think anyone posed solutions.

Perhaps for HTML the best solution would be to do the unsubscribe as an image; however, most of the web-based providers force you to use their "unsubscribe" message. And even if you used an image on the HTML, there is still a problem for text-based versions - it would take some creative and convoluted writing.

I've been using Vertical Response, but increasingly I think their servers are being blacklisted. One of my clients couldn't receive his last marketing mail because his ISP had banned Vertical Response. Vertical Response customer support was a great help, and the ISP eventually lifted the ban, but how many other ISPs use the same aggressive blacklist? How many of the big providers - Lyris, E-Mail Labs, and others - are now on blacklists?

You mentioned running the mail through SpamAssassin. I think Lyris offers a similar capability on their web site. I haven't tried either yet, but I will.

I think its a great topic, Cyril. I'd like to hear how others are designing, writing, and delivering with spam filters - and blacklists - in mind.

Mardi_Gras

12:10 pm on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As I ran another newsletter through the Lyris spam-checking tool yesterday, I was thinking "Cyril and I can't be the only ones on WebmasterWorld worried about getting through spam filters."

Or are we? I have taken the word "unsubcribe" out of my newsletters and replaced it with other language that seems to less attractive to filters - saved half a point on the Lyris scale, but I am sure some people filter much harder on that word than Lyris does.

Just thought I would bounce this back up and see if anyone else had any thoughts...

Don