"Hacker Safe " logo

[sonny]

Anyone seen those "hacker Safe" logos on websites. Supposedly deems your site hacker free and therefore the customer's credit card would be safe. From a company called Scan Alert. Pricey at $149/month but they give ROI figures from various companies.

[EliteWeb]

I'd be 'tempted' to hack a site if I saw that logo to exploit the stupidity of someone who feels they are safe buying online. You HAVE TO UNDERSTAND everyone who purchases online is vulnerable. No ifs ands or butts. ;)

[martinibuster]

You HAVE TO UNDERSTAND everyone who purchases offline is vulnerable too.

More people who purchase offline are vulneraable. Remember the thousands who had their account data stolen by insiders?

When you purchase something at a department store, do you really trust that seven dollar an hour clerk with the copy of your credit card statement?

[EliteWeb]

martinibuster, everyone is vulnerable. your mailbox makes you vulnerable, talking, and so forth also does ;) So now that we've established that facter -- sonny i do not suggest paying money to have a image on your site which can not gaurentee security esp. if yer gonna pay for it :D

[tedster]

I've done some Googling about this service, and there certainly is a lot of positive PR out there about it. Still haven't read anything I'd consider objective, however -- it all reads like marketing copy. They claim some high profile clients showing dramatic upticks in sales.

I've got to agree that the logo sure looks like painting your site with a bullseye for the hacker crowd. The company has got to feel that they've really got things locked down.

[martinibuster]

Everyone is vulnerable.

Yes... Stepping out the door is an adventure nowadays.

:) Y

Beddy-bye for me. Happy hour is over :( (so says my lovely wifey).

[Oaf357]

<<< do you really trust that seven dollar an hour clerk with the copy of your credit card statement? >>>

Restaurants are a good one too. I bought dinner one night at a restaurant with a credit card that I rarely use. Turns out an "unusual" charge popped up a few days later. Considering I hadn't used the card for months before and hadn't used the card those days afterwards I went back to the restaurant (after talking to the CC company) and needless to say the guy was using quite a few cards to by things (as found out by his employers when they searched him). He was arrested I think.

A little off topic but it shows you that people suck and no matter what someone is always looking to rip off someone else.

[suzanne]

I have received several unsolicitied calls from this company. Their marketing spin is designed to "scare" people who may be somewhat less informed & less savy about the internet. The original call was forwarded to me from a customer service rep who said there was someone on the phone who was contacting us about people trying to hack into our web site.

Then the sales guy got on the phone and said he was contacting me on behalf of customers asking his company if *our* site was "hacker free". I immediately smelled scam. After several weeks of routine, annoying calls from the company I finally asked to be put on their no-call list.

I just have no patience for deceptive, fear mongering marketing techniques.

[EliteWeb]

I'd love to actually get a call from these guys asking me if my sites were 'hacker safe' :D mMm I wonder if their site is 'hacker safe'?

[Marketing Guy]

From what suzanne says there, it does sound like a total sales pitch.

But, one thing to remember, even if an IT product is top notch, 100% legit, there still will be a sales guy trying to sell it without knowing what the hell he is saying.

They will get a list of points to emphasise and put them forward in their own unique style.

But I agree with the general concenus of the thread - labeling something "hack free" is just asking for trouble! May as label it "Microsoft" ;)

Scott

[Oaf357]

How be we label sites OS/2 or DRDOS.

Maybe "Hacker Friendly", that would have an interesting effect.

People would laugh at you though.

[gcross]

Off topic, sort of, but I have a credit card with a provider whose statements etc. I can access online. And one of the nifty things they've added in recent months was a virtual credit card number engine, that can be used online or downloaded software. It logs you in then generates an unassigned number for ONE TIME USE. It has a 30 day limit too. I use those for all my online purchases because, if garnered, it will be useless to anyone because it is already used and has the one time use limitation. Pretty cool, I think. Of course, I seldom purchase anything online, once or twice a month at most. But this is icing on the cake, so to speak.

[edit_g]

I think having a "Hacker Safe" logo on your site would be the equivalent of putting a "kick me, very hard" sticker on your back to most hackers...

[sullen]

edit_g - quite.

I'm thinking of starting a similar scheme (maybe $139 a month) with a site logo that says "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough"