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Get a .com listed in google.ie

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netnerd

9:30 pm on Aug 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Is there a way to get a .com listed in google.ie (sites from ireland section).

Can i do it by putting mytitle-ie.com , or if i get irish web hosting?

I dont think i can get a .ie as im from the uk.

Help!

Shak

9:32 pm on Aug 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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irish hosting is my guess!

sure 1 of our fellow members can give a 100% answer.

Shak

jmccormac

12:18 pm on Sep 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google's 'sites from $country' algorithm is pretty basic and is limited to website either hosted on a country's IP ranges or with that country's cctld. In this case it may be best to host the website with an Irish hosting company. Ideally it would be an Irish hosting company that hosts on Irish IP ranges. Most of the bigger players (Host.ie/Irishdomains.com/Hosting365.com/Blacknightsolutions.com) are hosting on Irish IP ranges. What you have to be careful of is Irish hosting companies hosting on US or UK space. These are counted as being US or UK .com sites by Google. You can verify the IP ranges by checking the IP on [ripe.net...] or if you have any questions, send me a stickymail.

You may be able to register a .ie but you would need to produce some tangible proof of business in Ireland such as a Business Name Registration cert or number. I would not personally recommend registering a .ie as it is an overpriced and incompetently run cctld. Even at the discounted rates offered by most of the big Irish hosters (they offer the .ie registration near to cost) it is too expensive (about 70 Euros a year). A .com is a lot cheaper and a lot less hassle. The problem is that a lot of the other SEs are not that bright when it comes to determining the geolocation of a .com site and a cctld such as .ie may be the best way to go. However on the other hand, the main traffic from SEs these days seems to be from Google.

Regards...jmcc

netnerd

1:25 pm on Sep 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks very much - ie hosting it is for me then!

jakob77

5:16 pm on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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there are not many .ie websites as .ie domains are bloody expensive

eoin host ie

11:34 am on Oct 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The total number of .ie domains can be seen by going to

www.iedr.ie (it's a frames site), click on sitemap, click on Domain Count Table under the Statistics section.

Eoin

jmccormac

6:04 am on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As a cctld, .ie is a disaster.This is due to the high price of .ie and the mismangement of the cctld by a shower of gob****es.The whole Irish internet industry does not like the high price of .ie and some hosters here are offering .ie domains at cost, or in one case, free with an enterprise hosting package.

While the price charged by a lot of Irish hosters for a .ie domain will be close to the trade price, it does not make it as attractive as a .com. But having a .ie is one way of getting the less technologically advanced search engines to include the pages in their 'pages from Ireland' results. Google, on the other hand tends to pay close attention to the IP of the website.

The attention to the website IP can have an unexpected side effect that makes the .ie somewhat more attractive. One of the more popular ISPs here is operated from the North of Ireland and its IP ranges are designated as being UK owned by RIPE. In this case the .ie becomes more important than the IP.If the website has a .ie then it does not (or should not) matter where the website is hosted. It should be included in the 'pages from Ireland' search results.

Approximately 25K .ie websites exist but of this, about 18K would be active. More Irish users tend to go to .com rather than .ie - it is sad but that is the reality. The industry is pushing hard for change and with any luck, the current registry will be stripped of the administration of .ie in the near future and .ie domains will be available at a reasonable price. If I had to make a guess, about 10K .ie websites are continually active (frequently updated). This guess is based on periodic search engine spidering of the .ie websites.

I do not trust the IEDR statistics on registered domains.

The number of dead and derelict websites in the .ie cctld is worrying. There is no ebb and flow of new domains and domain deletion as there is with a real cctld. At worst,.ie could have between 6K and 15K lapsed domains. There is no real vitality in the .ie cctld. This is sad because there is an amazing amount of talented Irish webdevelopers and Irish businesses that are going for a .com rather than .ie.

Regards...jmcc

blacknight

1:17 am on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The IEDR have promised reductions in price.. let's see what happens

leighton

1:45 am on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi im in the same situation.The .ie is €89.99 a year.
My web site is on angelfire and i want to firstly get a domain name instead of using the / / in the name.
They are offering a domain name for $10 a year .Is this well
priced?
However my site is fairly new and since Sept around 600 hits.I also want my listing in google.ie.
I have seen a .com site come up in a google.ie listing.I think its hosted in ireland.
Advertising on notice boards is a great way of getting
listed via a link.Tried and tested.
Im in no way trying to advertise for angelfire.So i hope its ok to mention the name.
Many thanks

jmccormac

6:38 am on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi im in the same situation.The .ie is €89.99 a year.

There is a bit of competition among Irish hosters for .ie business at the moment and some are selling at trade price and one that I know of is even offering .ie domains free as a loss leader on enterprise hosting. At worst, you may be able to get the .ie domain registered for about €70 or so. However there is a documentary proof of entitlement required for the domain. This means generally that you have to have some kind of entitlement to the domain and that typically means a Registered Business Name cert. If you don't have it, it means forking out another €30 for it from the Companies Registrations Office (www.cro.ie).

The price of .ie domains is kept high by IE Domain Registry (IEDR) - the company that 'manages' the .ie cctld. There was supposed to be a reduction in the price of .ie by the end of 2003 but like so many of IEDR's claims, it was just hype. The price remains the same. I do not think that the IEDR is financially capable of reducing the price of .ie domains because deletions are up by at least 2000% (that is not a typo) on 2002. New registrations for the first six months of 2003 were only 48% of what they were for the same period in 2002. Since IEDR is not an automated registry, you will not be able to register the .ie domain anyway until 05 January 2004 when IEDR reopens. However due to this .ie domain massacre, you could pick up some generic .ie domains that have recently been deleted.

My web site is on angelfire and i want to firstly get a domain name instead of using the / / in the name.
They are offering a domain name for $10 a year .Is this well
priced?

Angelfire is not hosted in Ireland. With a .ie domain pointing or being forwarded to Angelfire, it may get included in Google and many of the major search engines. However a $10 .com registration will probably not get you into Google as an Irish website unless it is hosted on an Irish webserver.

I also want my listing in google.ie.

Only surefire ways: a .ie domain or hosting on an Irish webserver. Google's geo-location algorithms only seem to extend to either determining if a website's IP is Irish owned or if the website's domain ends in .ie to include it on Google.ie. However I think that the default search option on Google.ie is for 'all the web' rather than 'pages from Ireland'.

I have seen a .com site come up in a google.ie listing.I think its hosted in ireland.

Probably the only way that a .com is going to get listed in google.ie as being from Ireland. You could also get the site listed in Irish web directories and the Irish search engine so that it would get a higher profile for specifically Irish searches. The main ones are listed here in this thread: [webmasterworld.com...]

Seasons greetings and good luck with the site. Here's to a new year with a reasonably priced .ie domain and a proper registry for .ie cctld. :)

Regards...jmcc