submitting directory pages

for link pop

[mr_dredd2]

does anyone still does this technique? submitting the url of a yahoo or other popular directory which contains your site?

I used to do a while ago.. just wondered if anyone thinks its still worthit..

:)

[Woz]

In the spirit of being found rather than submitting, I am starting to experiment with "as found in" pages listing those pages linking to the site in question so that spiders will find and index them. Kind of like a Clayton's submit (aussie joke..).

Also, by linking back, I am speculating that this would also effect hub/authority status assuming the link outs are on theme.

Onya
Woz

PS, Claytons was(is) a non-alcaholic drink marketed in Australia for those times when you were socialising but not drinking alcahol. The tag was "the drink you have when you are not having a drink". Don't know if it got to any other countries though.

[mark_roach]

Woz

I am currently trying exactly the opposite. I used to put a (hidden) link on my site to any page that linked to me.

However I am now testing to see if you get more of a boost for a incoming link that doesn't have reciprocal outgoing link.

I am particularly interested in Google and the fact that it appears to be cracking down on link farms. Maybe it does it by giving you one point for an incoming link and then taking one point off if you link back to that same site.

[Macguru]

I know one person working for a local french language directory here. They use Google for secondary results in the same manner as Yahoo!. He told me (while we were having a drink ;) )that they have a hidden page for Google to crawl on wich they list new inclusions.

I think the more popular the directory is the less efforts you should put in submitting your listings. Not all those resources are crawled on a regular basis. And some search engines do not crawl very well, so you have to submit directory inclusions to them.

I offer some optional service of submitting sites to trade directories, vortals and local directories. Using a home brewed database of such ressources, I just sort the records and pick the ammount of sites the client can afford. The cost of inclusion, the popularity and the theme relevance are some important factors for my client to choose the right package. But the technology those ressources use is another one. If a vortal uses some dynamic technology the link will not be taken into account in some SE. If a directory uses frames we have to make sure to summit the frame URL and not the one of the frameset.

A vertical market site I care for (offshore engineering) gets about 55% of traffic directly from trade directories and vortals, not from international SE. Google's page rank jumped 3 notches 3 months after the end of submissions to those ressources. About 40% of those links had to be hand submitted afterwards on Google and 90% on AV.

I consider that the time and efforts to find out wich engines did or did not list all my inbound links is not worth it. So I make a global list, and submit it all on SE using link pop.

[2_much]

"Maybe it does it by giving you one point for an incoming link and then taking one point off if you link back to that same site."

This is very interesting Mark. Has anyone had experience with this? I've seen a combination of both and have used a combination of both, but haven't come to a conclusion as to what's most effective.

Any ideas?