Facebook, Google Twitter, YouTube and Microsoft agree to hate speech "Code of Conduct" In Europe

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Facebook, Google Twitter, YouTube and Microsoft have signed up to a hate speech "Code of Conduct" in Europe.

By signing this code of conduct, the IT companies commit to continuing their efforts to tackle illegal hate speech online. This will include the continued development of internal procedures and staff training to guarantee that they review the majority of valid notifications for removal of illegal hate speech in less than 24 hours and remove or disable access to such content, if necessary. European Commission and IT Companies announce Code of Conduct on illegal online hate speech [europa.eu]

[JS_Harris]

Censorship for the professionally offended, by the professionally offended, despite there ALREADY being tools in place for the USER to ban anyone, for any reason, from their own view? This has waste of money written all over it.

Isn't Europe in the grips of a mass migration so huge that to even suggest they might need to slow down brands you racist? It will be interesting to see how much shaming they work into this.

[graeme_p]

No, mass migration is a massive exaggeration if you look at actual numbers (particularly as a proportion of the population) - then again, most people are confused by numbers so....

You are spot on about professionally offended, but the biggest problem are people who share stuff not realising who is behind it. Extremists, and racists in particular, are adept at using Facebook in particular. However, they are usually quite subtle, and their actions are probably legal.

[JS_Harris]

exaggeration? That depends where you live, the last 15 years have been eye opening. European media is also self censoring crimes involving migrants to stave off backlash but videos of events, that often contradict the official story, are available on some websites(message me if you disagree with that Graeme and I'll show you).

It may or may not be a big problem but you can't label it like that.
- Are you an extremist or 'racist' if you are victimized by a migrant(or vice versa) and then again by the media/police who refuse to act and you speak up?

There was an attack at a grocery store last week in which 4 women were hurt, 1 killed. Clearly a religiously motivated attack (video on site I mentioned, but not in local media) on innocent women. The attacker had stabbed an officer less than 24 hours earlier and spent the night in jail but was let go because he might have been harmed there by other inmates if he stayed. To even suggest that a family member who speaks up about that, and is rightfully angry, should be censored or labeled a racist is absurd. A problem is a problem, under the rug or not.

My point is I fear that this change being a Europe targeted thing is to appease what outsiders look on in awe at. Didn't Merkle, for example, take a flag away from another German politician so as not to promote patriotism?

Someone has to ask how much the shaming and migrant protection concerns are behind this move. I also disagree, I do think the migrant issue is massive, people leaving Syria(for example) aren't doing it just to be safe otherwise they'd stop at the neighboring country. They are going through 7 countries to reach Germany right now...

I'm not trying to stir anything, and I'm not hateful, I am sincerely thinking that this is related to current events in Europe and I want to know to what extent. We're talking censorship that, as you pointed out, will include a lot of judgment calls and opposing points of view.

This is dangerous too, if you want to create hate by silencing people who may be rightfully angry you could incite riots as they find other outlets, and there are many of those.

[JAB Creations]

Big surprise to see this posted here. Anything to suppress freedom of speech and to allow genocide all around the globe to continue. Protecting your own culture is not hate speech and "hate speech" at it's core is usually a backlash against powerful people abusing their powers. Why are there hundreds of Chinese, Vietnamese, and people from Thailand in the isolated country of Iceland for example? Sure, there are some soundly ethical reasons for reducing populations in general though destroying and diluting cultures is outright malevolent and undeniably genocide. This kind of nonsense only serves to drown the world in violence removing constructive objective avenues to resolve these issues while the people hoarding all the wealth continue to do so. Because apparently they don't have to live on the same planet as everyone else. The only true hate speech mentioned here are the laws and business policies designed to destroy cultures and people.

John

[keyplyr]

Obviously, it depends on what your definition of "hate speech" is. It appears the EU Code of Conduct defines this.

[blend27]

IT Companies announce Code of Conduct on illegal online hate speech

IT Companies announce Code of Conduct: NO Endless loops in your code.
Illegal: Is there a legal one?
Hate: Bad word
Speech: that is where the rest of it goes bunkers

[JS_Harris]

UPDATE: New York City has updated hate speech laws and will fine someone 250,000 for knowingly misgendering someone. IE: If you call Bruce Jenner a HE instead of his preferred gender assignment(currently SHE) you are breaking the law?

It would seem our own leaders are no longer making the laws for our countries. Laws take time to pass yet all of these companies and multiple countries all coming out with the same message at the same time?! You may remember that Canada did the same recently after pledging to re-join the U.N. so this is likely related to the massive migration going on in every predominantly white or affluent country.

Why now? Because views on transgender and homosexuality are extremely negative in many of the places most migrants come from and so protection is needed as cultures are smashed together. This would also mean that what we think is excessive migration now may only be the start.

You just get that feeling that something much bigger than anyone is officially saying is going on. Full media control, mass acceptance of everything and everyone even if you can plainly see it tearing local fabric apart. Soaring migrant crime rates. Could this be part of the globalization plan called "Agenda 2030" by the United nations? More on that here if you weren't aware: [sustainabledevelopment.un.org...]

From the U.N. website

We are determined to foster peaceful, just and inclusive societies which are free from fear and violence.

"transforming our world" indeed, but who is giving them more authority than the people give their own elected leaders? Making Saudi Arabia a leading country within the U.N. despite horrendous human rights issues was questionable... who's making our laws and policies now, the U.N.?

One other problem: How the heck am I supposed to know, or even want to care about, what someone else does between the sheets or under their clothes before I can call them he or she? I find this surprise new amendment to the 1945 human rights bill highly unconstitutional, and suspicious given multiple countries doing the same at the same time. It's not going to affect me either way because I don't go around being hateful but I DO want to know who's really running the country?

That's an extremely important question now that whenever something negative happens everyone loses a little bit more freedom and/or privacy instead of just the offenders.

I know my post might seem off topic, my point is that this isn't an isolated event and so without understanding who/where these laws are coming from we can't ensure our leaders hear our voices which is their mandate.

[J_RaD]

*house is on fire*
No no...everything is fine

Europe is shooting itself in the face on a daily basis, vote out your corrupt gov before its to late

[JAB Creations]

My software's terms of service explicitly forbid misrepresenting people, if you were born a male you are to be presented as such and vice-versa for females. These aren't actually legitimate topics, they're simply conjurations by political think-tanks. The funny thing about laws is that they aren't actually laws for two good reasons. First and foremost they're rules, rules made by humans. Secondly human "laws" are supposed to be representational of human values and not of corporate interests (while corporations are indeed entitled to certain rights their rights do not extend to trampling on people's rights) so even if something is deemed illegal it must actually hold up in a court of law. Even if someone incompetently defies a corporate-interest-law separate cases still must be held in order for a court of law to be considered a just and neutral authority otherwise it risks alienating itself as a medium in which conflicts can be resolved.

So at the end of the day if any rule ("human law") violates your freedom to express your thoughts and opinions (which do not infer threat of body, financial or property based harm) then each individual is well within their right to ignore such laws on as individuals be it in business aspects or personal.

John

[J_RaD]

oh its getting better

If you can’t do the time, don’t … eh… tweet carelessly in London? London is increasingly slapping people with prosecutions for reckless, aggressive or plain hateful language on social media.

And in easily offended europe "hateful language" is calling someone a stupid head. GOD FORBID YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM, they'll knock your door down within the hour.

Londonistan..........

[JS_Harris]

A 1500% increase in the number of rapes in Sweden which coincides 100% with the increase in migrants + no go zones, sharia courts... guess what, PEOPLE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT anywhere that will listen. When police no longer respond to calls due to fear of being attacked you've got a very serious problem! Since pointing a finger in the general direction of the cause of the increase in rapes and other crimes brands you a hateful bigot(they say racist but the migrants are of many colors, it's religious beliefs and not race that seems to be the problem) then this new law is HUGELY problematic. It doesn't silence the criminals, it protects them and silences the victims which are crying out loudly.

ALL OF EUROPE is destined to be Sweden, and parts of France, Germany and Britain already are. Soon democracy crumbles because the only vote outcome possible is one made by the majority and the majority will be migrant, most of whom do not truly intend to do anything but enforce their own religion. Mark this point in History, if Britain does not vote to leave then such a vote will be made IMPOSSIBLE to have happen in the future with various rule and law changes.

Look to Canada and Quebec's own referendum for proof of that. a 50.1% stay vs 49.9% leave vote resulted in MANY new laws, including needing government approval, to even hold such a vote and the party that originally introduced the vote was purged of its leadership by various rezoning rules and even the addition of a new competing party in Quebec to split the vote.... Never again can such a vote be had, and that's what is in store for Britain too.

Is it too late? Leave and rule your own lands when clearly the EU is globalizing and eradicating existing culture or stay and become... Londonistan, the same as all the other 'istans. I'm seriously not trying to be hateful here, this is the reality of Britain today. Thankfully I don't live in a country that will shame me for my opinion, yet.

Note: Now that someone has blocked this thread from view unless loged in I don't see much point to responding further, the world is going through some trying times right now in what seems a global effort(see: agenda 2030 by United nations) but everyone seems more worried about protecting their own interests than speaking up.

[graeme_p]

Genocide? Where? A comparatively low level of immigration (compared to a countries population) is somehow killing people.

As for European media self-censoring, a lot of European media (British tabloids in particular) are deeply racist and doing quite the opposite. Read "Flat Earth News". They play up any story where the offender is non-white. Their coverage of Middle Eastern immigration now is exactly like their coverage of Jewish immigration in the 1930s.

Hate speech is not a backlash against the powerful, it is a mixture finding scapegoats and simple hatred of anyone different. Read Mein Kampf for an insight into the mind set.

people leaving Syria(for example) aren't doing it just to be safe otherwise they'd stop at the neighboring country

Which neighbouring country would a Syrian refugee be safe in? Particularly if they are from a minority (Kurds, Christians, etc.)?

[graeme_p]

This thread should really be deleted, it is full of quite appalling bigotry itself, and repeating fake stats made up by extremists. Lets debunk the Swedish rape thing for a start:

[debunkingdenialism.com...]

[JS_Harris]

Nathalie Hager and thousands of other women this year alone would disagree with your 'there is no problem' stance, Graeme. The source you quoted, 'debunkingdenialism.com', has a pretty obvious agenda baked right into the domain name doesn't it? Look at a more mainstream media source that is not 100% controlled, yet: [wnd.com...] If you feel that silencing victims and handing out anti-rape cartoons to migrants is the solution then I disagree with you plainly and leave it at that.

If you, or anyone, deletes this already hidden from public view thread then please delete my account along with it, I won't support silencing of victims, or media outlets who do. I believe in holding leaders accountable for mistakes and making them slow down when people are getting hurt. There is no justifying letting a person out of jail within 24 hours of stabbing a police officer. Those 4 women who were stabbed afterwards didn't do anything wrong but were not protected. Silencing people (such as is the topic of this thread) is the wrong approach, it asks for more problems. I can't think of ANYWHERE else in the world where someone can stab an officer while chanting religious stuff and be let out within 24 hours, can you?

Which neighboring country would a Syrian refugee be safe in?

Look at a map and count the countries between Syria and Germany. Many of them are in the EU, are you suggesting none of those are safe? If they are then why are they walking all the way to Germany?

I'm going to assume you simply haven't seen the countless videos and reports on non-EU sites Graeme. The left has gone too far, so far in fact that people like Trump might become president and countries like Britain my leave the EU... too far. The EU has accepted too many too quickly while countries like Saudi Arabia refuse to accept any? There are plans in place to accept millions more migrants over the next few years despite that math clearly showing that more Syrian refugees are arriving than there were Syrians to begin with. Silencing those who object, or suggest this needs to slow down... it's just not the right approach, it's too late for that.

I was encouraged this week when Merkle finally admitted in a speech that 'migrants are more violent than citizens' but a little less encouraged when she offered no solution and simply stated 'we must accept that'. No, we shouldn't. Not having a plan, or refusing to come up with one to avoid being called a racist, is a guaranteed way to fail.

When I see a government and major companies attempt to keep people quiet with arbitrary judgment calls but refuse to hold actual criminals responsible for their actions due to their status or religion, I know something is not right. If that makes me a bigot in your mind, so be it.

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This thread really has run its course.