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I'm not looking for a bunch of MeToo posts, because it's pointless and useless to read yet more testimony about how much MSN and Yahoo! suck (personally I already know that, thanks).
What I want is any kind of constructive info -- practical clues to follow, perhaps a few helpful heads-ups regarding other WebmasterWorld posts on the topic -- anything I could actually use to help fix the problem, and not merely complain some more about it.
Google most heavily relies upon the quality and nature of backlinks of the three. Yahoo is sorta in the middle. MSN can still rank you with iffy backlinks and aggressive on site optimization.
One possibility is that the site is not very well optimized, and/or that it may also have too much internal duplication (Y and MSN filters are more heavy handed IMO).
So it's possible that your links are carrying you in G, but your lack of optimization or other internal site issues are causing problems in Y and MSN.
That's where I'd start, anyway, FWIW.
What I find intersting is that a thread on the inverse of this issue, ie: "Doing great on MSN/Yahoo, nowhere on Google" runs into two pages of posts, and growing. But this opposite dilemma seems to be an orphan. Wierd. Am I all alone?
I gave up on trying to figure Yahoo out, their engineers are probably shaking up the results just to get us to spend more money on paid sponsor listings.
So, if 5 new items come in, I'll create 5 pretty much identical pages all optimizing for the same keywords, with the same text. Next 5 products, a different set of keywords and a different piece of descriptive blahblah. Face it, a commercial site offering hundreds or even thousands of products, all unified under the same general industry header, is going to have a lot of overlaps in the verbiage -- and still be totally dead-on relevant to the search.
Google doesn't mind this. Yahoo apparently does.
The other thing is that, although I'm in every obscure and relevant directory out there, plus I have a real solid set of links & backlinks (all created around 3 years ago right after initial site launch) I haven't done a single link exchange with anyone in well over 2 years. SEO via link exchanges is such a transparent game, and by now I look at link exchange solicitation eMails as an almost pure form of spam.
By the looks of things, using my own site as the Petri dish, Google seems to agree with that view of link exchanges: again, no new links since well over two years now, and I'm still solidly sitting at #1, like an iron doorstop, unmoveable.
Yahoo's still guided by some dark ages paradigm, long ago outmoded by ever-evolving Internet reality.
Just gotta repeat: Google keeps me literally stuck at number one position. I don't even budge for most of the money kw's in my trade. Logic dictates I must be at least somehwat relevant to those searches, eh? ...but I don't even exist on Yahoo. I do mean z-e-r-o rankings. Nowhere. Zip. Bupkus. Non-entity.