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is ASP alive now?

         

m3ch4n1c

9:26 pm on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello WebMasterWorld! :)

I'm worried about some thing for last time:
is an pure ASP technology goes to die in near future?

In my opinion it's really good tech. for beginner
webmasters and not so big projects.

And taking it in mind - is it good as a basis
for current/new projects?

Best Regards,
Eugene/

txbakers

9:34 pm on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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ASP will be around for a long time. It's not going to be forever, but nothing in tech is.

I'd give it another good 10 years, but that's just my guess.

Eltiti

9:59 pm on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I *hope* (and think...) ASP will be around for a while, because I have used it since 1997 and continue to use it on a regular basis!

mrMister

2:55 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As long as you've got a windows server licence and a computer capable of running it you'll be able to use ASP.

The only thing that would stop it is if the HTTP or TCP/IP specifications changed drastically (not likely for many decades at least)

You could even use COBOL to write your web site if you really wanted to and that language is 45 years old now!

But, why would you want to use ASP? Sure, if your website is already written in ASP, there's often no good reason to change. However, if you're writing a new website, it's best to use ASP.Net. It executes faster, development time is usually quicker, the code is usually easier to maintain and it's better suited to the modern Internet.

[edited by: mrMister at 2:56 am (utc) on Sep. 14, 2005]

Easy_Coder

2:56 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't believe it will be around forever... ms has already ended support for vb6 which in terms of developer popularity was absolutely enormous. In other words more devs used vb6 then asp and support for vb6 ended... so will asp.

mrMister

2:57 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MS offer support? All I've ever gotten is a hold message and an idiot ;-)

Easy_Coder

3:10 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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^
Your're obviously biased against ms...

mrMister

3:15 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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^
You're obviously an ms employee ;-)

I've only ever needed to call them once, and I'm glad it only was once.

Don't get me wrong, I like the ASP platforms but support never comes in to the equation for me.

Easy_Coder

3:22 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MS offer support? All I've ever gotten is a hold message and an idiot ;-)

these types of comments removes the value from the conversation mrMister...

'support' in the context that I wrote meant at the product level not the phone level.

plumsauce

7:21 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ok, does anyone know how to run asp.net without all the crud that it wants to install in the site directories?

mrMister

7:48 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The client-side scripts? Just delete them after the install.

plumsauce

2:44 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yep, those are the ones.

Do you remember what else gets installed? I had it installed on a test server, but wiped it recently.

m3ch4n1c

3:47 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you all of you gays for your answers and opinions.

BradleyT

6:23 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't erase webuivalidation.js if you plan on making any forms.

mrMister

1:31 am on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Client side validation is a mess is ASP.Net 1.1, best to disable it in my opinion.

You have to laugh when MS use JS regular expressions on the client side but VB regular expressions on the server side, because they're not always compatible. A regular expression test can validate on the client but not on the server and vice versa!

txbakers

8:29 pm on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I laughed when I saw all the JavaScript (not JScript) used on those generated ASpX pages. JavaScript was a Netscape invention, JScript was the MS ripoff of it, and now that Netscape is no more, they can use JavaScript.

BradleyT

3:22 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've never had a problem with client side validation and I've done over 300 asp.net forms over the past 3 years.

Maybe I'm just lucky.