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New Mac Pros labeled made in China

         

Dimitri

3:28 pm on Jun 30, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Apple making new Mac Pros in China instead of US, report says

[cnet.com...]



Just switching :)


The news comes after the company was looking to move iPhone production away from China.

lucy24

5:54 pm on Jun 30, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Reason #87 to hope that my current Mac never, ever dies. (With any luck, it will be like my 20-gallon aquarium. I've replaced the hood and related business several times, the stand once, the tank once ... but I've still got the aquarium.)

Dimitri

9:12 pm on Jun 30, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Still have the aquarium that my grand father offered to me when I was 8 years old , each time he was visiting he was bringing new fishes :)

TorontoBoy

9:39 pm on Jun 30, 2019 (gmt 0)

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It could be worse. Apple could be designing Macbooks in China and then manufacturing them there. Still, I'd rather not try my luck.

I've taken apart some recent Lenovo laptops and they are not designed to be repaired. All made in China.

iamlost

12:17 am on Jul 1, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Apple gave it a try with the low volume high margin MacPro Texas factory. IMO the cause of this shift is not the factory, workers, 'high' wages et al rather that supply chains in China, in east Asia entire for that matter, can scale up and down faster than in the west, in the US in this instance.

These days factories in the US primary do component assembly. In Asia/China they also manufacture all the bits and pieces that go into components that go into products, the manufacturing foundation that the US (and much of the west) has lost over the past 50 years.

When folks, politicians especially, yabber about reinvigorating manufacturing I ROFLMAO because entire infrastructures have been lost and would take one to two generations to rebuild, just as it took for Japan after WW2 and China lately. The US (west generally) is not interested in long term investment especially not generational.

......

Until right to repair regulation is mandated there is no incentive for companies to allow repair - it raises potential liability and diminishes replacement sales (and product lockin). Apple, among others, has lobbied against every state right to repair proposal. What is funny is that right to repair may win because of farmers raging against John Deere; although I expect there will eventually simply be a farm exemption and the rest of us will be left buying new electronics indefinitely.

lucy24

1:00 am on Jul 1, 2019 (gmt 0)

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:: detour to look up right to repair [gizmodo.com] as I’d never heard the phrase ::

Dimitri

8:10 am on Jul 1, 2019 (gmt 0)

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In Asia/China they also manufacture all the bits and pieces that go into components that go into products,


China planted chips in Apple and Amazon servers, report claims
This article is more than 8 months old
Both firms deny report they found chips giving backdoor access to computers and data
[theguardian.com...]


:)

iamlost

6:36 pm on Jul 1, 2019 (gmt 0)

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@Dimitri:
As I happen to use motherboards in question I've followed this story with great interest.

Bloomberg has consistently stood by the story.
However, they have never shown any proof whatsoever, no one has, publicly, found such a compromised MB, all companies involved have consistently denied the story and have reportedly done hardware checks, persons quoted in the story have denied their quoted statements or claimedthey were used out of context, i.e. general possibility taken as specifically done, and the authors have a not so great reputation. There has been quite a lot of discussion on security blogs and fora, the conscientious being that the story as written is false.

Not to say that it hasn't/couldn't happen. Indeed, one theory is that the story is cover for an NSA/GCHQ behaviour the other way! So much smoke is blown about these days where no fire ever existed or ever will that the old adage where there's smoke there's fire is a but a charming relic of bygone days. Now it's where there is smoke is an ulterior motive.

Dimitri

7:43 am on Jul 2, 2019 (gmt 0)

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ah, okay!