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NY Times has this:
Yes, you read that right. It's reinventing not just the internet, but newspapers, TV and movies. Oh, and textbooks, too.
Can someone tell me what exactly it's reinventing? It has the exact same functionality as a large iPhone! They haven't shown if apps can even be multitasked. Flash is still disabled for internet browsing.
If you want to write software for this thing you will have to sell it through Apples store. If you want software for this thing you have to buy it in Apples store. And if they do not like the software for some reason you can't sell it.
This seems to be a new trend: Amazon wants to do the same thing with the Kindle Apps.
Imagine you want to buy software for your PC and have to go to the "Microsoft Store" to get it and Microsoft would get 30% of your payment.There would be a storm of protest. But when Apple does this it's cool because Apple is soooo cooool. They do not even allow flash for this reason. Because then you could simply use many flash applications in your browser without paying Apple.
how much? 499? *lame*
newton round 2.
Either way Apple have a certain user base who simply love Apply products. This could very easily be the tool that revolutionizes the book industry in much the way the iPod did to the music industry.
Mack.
Everyone uses a laptop and smartphone. Is there room for a third category of device in the middle... We think there's something better. We call it the iPad....
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64GB + wifi+3G = $800+++++
I would much rather have one of these than a netbook. I don't think the iPad is a laptop killer but it may very well be a netbook and eReader killer for many people. For very mobile people I could see it being a laptop killer though - personally I'd much rather have an iPad on a plane than a laptop or even a netbook.
My favorite features:
Price: $499 to $829.
Unlimited 3G available for $29/month with no contract.
10 hours of video!
Runs all iPhone apps.
Ebooks, with a book store. Eat your heart out Kindle DX, a much more limited device pricing in at $489.
Multitouch of course - after having an iPod it's frustrating to not have a touch interface on my laptop.
Keyboard dock. Why not after all? When at your desk you can use it like a 'normal' laptop if you want.
I'm also glad they called it the iPad. I thought they might not because of 'branding confusion' or some garbage like that. But it makes sense because it does function to a large degree like a big iPod, which has definitely paved the way for this device.
p.s.
Ironically Amazon.com is already running AdWords ads for the iPad
Ipad at Amazon
Big Savings on Ipad
Free 2-Day Shipping w/Amazon Prime!
The Kindle is $259. The Kindle DX (similar screen size to the iPad) is $489. Both include free 3g connectivity and have battery life of a week.
The same functionality on the iPad would cost $629 (for the 16Gb with 3G) and then $180 a year for the low plan of 3G wireless access. And your battery would only last 10 hours, so you'd need to plug it in all the time. Plus, the books seem to be about 50% more expensive than on the Kindle. So, as a straight ebook reader, it loses.
Its advantage comes in being more than that. Unfortunately, it's not all it could be. It's basically an iPod Touch with a big screen. No camera (for Skype), no Adobe Flash, no USB ports, no SD expandability, no multitasking, no real PC apps (OpenOffice.org, Firefox, etc).
I don't like it. For the same reason I do not like any of the products Apple has introduced in the last years:
I've not read the reviews as to what it does, but if it's a big iphone, I'm definitely interested. A big screen where I can read my email around the house, maybe read some ebooks before I drift off for the night, watch the odd movie - that's worth $600 or so to me.
Heck, I borrowed my kids ipod last night and watched a movie on the sofa - on a device the size of a credit card. Bizarre.
Batteries nice, but I'm used to charging my phone/laptop/etc all the time anyway.
Why not after all? When at your desk you can use it like a 'normal' laptop if you want.
Does your normal laptop run one application at a time and have no Flash support? The decision to keep the OS the same as the iPhone is a killer...they're practically forcing people to go to the App store for anything interesting. The iPad should be able to have the same functionality as a laptop, battery be damned.
I can read books on my iPhone...I do already. "They have an App for that." I don't see what this offers to anyone who already has an iPhone and looking for something more.
...anyone who already has an iPhone and looking for something more.
For someone who doesn't have an iPhone (or any other iDevices) this looks interesting. Curious, since it uses the same OS as the iPhone, why can't I hold it in front of me and make a call.. and maybe even see the person I'm talking to? A solar powered recharging dock would be VERY green, and extremely portable.
Not ready to buy iNto it today, but I will be keeping my iEyes on it.
I don't see what this offers to anyone who already has an iPhone and looking for something more.
Full sized pages, not just paragraphs, that you can read without a magnifying glass.
Full sized pages, not just paragraphs, that you can read without a magnifying glass.
How much is that worth to you? Is it worth ignoring all the other, much cheaper electronic readers as well?
It's blazing fast, engineered to perfection and I'm sure will have a long line of companies trying to play catch up, just like the iPhone.
* No ability to play Adobe Flash animations, widely used on the Web.
* No camera, still or video
* No non-Internet phone function
* Unclear whether you can bundle your AT&T iPhone plan with an iPad data plan
* No removable battery for a device that can suck a lot of power
* No removable storage
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I'm surprised about the lack of a camera. The rumors were off on that one.
Still, for my lifestyle, this will be very useful.
The overall marketplace? I think print has been going away and this will be one of the major nails in the coffin.
I'm surprised about the lack of a camera.
Clearly they are trying to keep the price down. Therefore removed some functions and hardware.
Whats with not being able to view Flash. Seems really dumb.
As far as Flash, it is a known resource hog, that's the main reason it is not on the iPhone. It would destroy battery life and make too many people very unhappy.
No camera is probably a smart financial move for the time being, it'll serve as a great hook for users to upgrade in a year, and right now it'll keep production costs down.
maybe a big pouch in front.
By the way, despite my glowing review I do acknowledge that the device clearly has shortcomings. However, maybe that's what it takes to launch a new computing form factor (take the iPod for example) into the mainstream. Plus, considering that many people already do many of their tasks online (Google docs, online mail, etc), the software limitations are less important than they were in the past.
Also, as travelin_cat said, version 2.0 will probably have some of these missing features so keep an eye out for that. Also many of the bugs that have yet to be discovered should be worked out by then.
Finally, for serious users I'm sure it won't be long until there is a jailbreak option, enabling more of the (software) features you want.
As far as Flash, it is a known resource hog, that's the main reason it is not on the iPhone.
Adobe has been in talks with Apple, but apparently there is a risk that Flash (even Flash-lite) obviates the need for a store as a means to access interactive content. That would be too big a problem for Apple.
Resource isn't likely an issue on this device. It has a decent battery and plenty of processor grunt - check out some of the games on it in the presentation.
