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Outlook Express/Entourage on a MAC

Anyone know whay I can't add stationery to an HTML email on a MAC?

         

DiAMOndDavE

11:57 pm on Nov 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello folks,

Does anyone know why I can't seem to add stationery to an HTML email message using either Outlook Express or Entourage on a MAC?

I know how to do this no problem on a PC but the function does not appear to be built into the MAC versions of Outlook Express or Entourage. Am I right here? Has anyone had the same experience?

Peace :)
DiAMOndDavE

Mardi_Gras

12:27 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Per some earlier threads, I don't think you can send HTML via OE on the Mac :(

DiAMOndDavE

12:56 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the reply Mardi_Gras. I can send HTML emails using OE on a MAC. What I can't do however, is add stationery as I can on a PC. I am guessing that when Microsoft built their MAC versions of Outlook/Outlook Express & Entourage that the add stationery facility was disabled or cut out somehow?

Mardi_Gras

1:59 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I can send HTML emails using OE on a MAC

I am happy to be corrected - I suggested in an earlier thread that a poster use OE for the Mac to send HTML mail because I always thought (in my Mac days) that the Mac version of OE was far more advanced than OE for the PC. The response was that there was no HTML option in OE/Mac. Glad to hear that is wrong.

As for stationery, it has been too long since my Motorola Mac clone (gee, who here is old enough to remember Mac clones ;))went into storage for me to recall those kinds of specifics :) hopefully, someone with a little more current Mac knowledge (Mivox? Macguru?) will chime in.

DiAMOndDavE

2:46 am on Nov 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm - I have researched this and Googled till my eyes have popped and I am fairly sure you just can't do this. Adding 'stationery' to an HTML email is considered by most folks (don't ask web developers to agree with me on this though!) as a useful feature. Why MAC users are being left out in the cold on this is a mystery to me - unless someone else can tell me I'm wrong...?

bodine

1:58 am on Nov 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I see you still have not found a solution since this was originally posted a few months ago.

I guess this falls into the category of that some people can do it, and some can't. But, that is what I get paid for-- doing things that others cannot do...

Oh, and Mardi_Gras, the clones have not been that long ago...I remember the clones as if it were yesterday...

DiAMOndDavE

2:52 am on Dec 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Useful response Bodine. Thank you for taking a few minutes of your precious time to enhance the community spirit of this wondrous site.

I guess your 'response' falls into the category of that some people have an ego the size of a planet and some don't.

Merry Christmas

bodine

5:11 pm on Dec 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You're very welcome, DiAMOndDavE. We all tried to help you-- detailed instructions and all, but yet you were still not able to get it done-- maybe for technical problems with the software, or some other reason.

I guess some have an ego the size of a planet, but I ain't one of them. I know there are some things I cannot do, but getting HTML out of OE is one thing I can do.

Happy New Year!

<added>What I meant by "some can/some can't" is that it may require more expertise (e.g., AppleScript) than what can be covered here. And, because it is done one way on a PC does not mean you can do it the same way on a Mac. We Mac people can do it, but the way of doing it is different. If you want to go into detail as to what you want to do, maybe we all can help you accomplish what you want to do. First, for the people who have never used a PC, describe what "stationary" is...</added>

[edited by: bodine at 5:49 pm (utc) on Dec. 17, 2002]

Macguru

5:24 pm on Dec 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I would gladly chime in with some help, but I never used any version of OE or entourage.

DiAMOndDavE

2:58 am on Dec 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Bodine,

No-one has sent me "detailed instructions" on how to do this so that is why I re-asked the question. I thought there was a catch for MACs and your latest reply confirms that by mentioning you have to use AppleScript.

That was all I really needed to know - just to stop me bashing my head against a brick wall. I'm not asking one of the great coding masters of the univers (such as yourself) to give away their hard-earned secrets.

You are right, I don't know AppleScript - but I know someone who does. So thank you at least for pointing me in the right direction.

bodine

4:00 am on Dec 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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<quote>No-one has sent me "detailed instructions" on how to do this so that is why I re-asked the question.</quote>

eboda answered your question in detail in this topic:

[webmasterworld.com...]

Maybe the AppleScripter you know is at least half the "great coding master" I am, so s/he can get something working for you.

Good Luck!

DiAMOndDavE

5:18 am on Dec 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Bodine,

No - eboda was showing me how to add a 'signature' to an Entourage email message which was not what I was after. If you read the old post you will see that eboda's (and your) helpful suggestions did not work on my iMac. My question again is how to add 'stationary' as you can with a PC version of Outlook Express. There is a trick and you have hinted that the answer is AppleScript and I now reckon you are most likely right.

It's really not that important so I'm not going to waste any more time for all the good folk on this list. I will try my AppleScript friend next.

Party on!

Macguru

6:15 am on Dec 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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DiAMOndDavE,

I did a bit of research and it seems that eboda is absolutely right. Stationery templates are not available on the Mac version. eboda was offering the only alternative I could find on USENET.

[edited by: Macguru at 2:27 pm (utc) on Dec. 18, 2002]

bodine

2:25 pm on Dec 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't know exactly what "stationary" is on a PC, but I can take a guess. If you have MS Office, you may be able to design a template that will do what you need.

Dante_Maure

11:17 pm on Dec 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If you have MS Office, you may be able to design a template that will do what you need.

While I am unfamiliar with Entourage, to my knowledge there is no way to import an HTML template into Outlook Express for Mac.

bodine

1:18 am on Dec 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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AFAIK, you are right, Dante_Maure-- for both OE and Entourage. I meant to say that one could design a template in Word, use the Macro, or VB, or RealBasic features to create a new OE email based on that template. (Wonder why MS did not bother writing a "template" feature in Entourage?)

Can anyone describe what this "stationary" thing does, exactly?

Dante_Maure

3:39 am on Dec 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Pretty much the same as r/t stationery... provides a designed background for the email upon which the text appears.

Spelling police note: stationary is unmoving, stationery is writing paper. :)

bodine

5:07 am on Dec 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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How is the "stationery" sent through real servers? They can't be expected to know what to do with a "background." I had no idea what any of that meant, as I never touch a PC. If a normal email client (ie, not Outlook) gets the email, what happens? I have gotten email from people before with attachments that say things like "background.jpg." Is that how it will send it? If you look at the raw text, how is the email really sent? How is that different from what we were describing in the previous topic? It also uses a "background." I NEVER use HTML, so I dont pay attention to how it works, but I want to know. (Spelling Police: Thx. I allow the spell checking to do all of my corrections and "stationary" comes first...I'm the "Grand Masta Coder" of the "univers" (I wish!), but I admit, I can't type. And, I wasn't for sure what stationery meant, as you can't write on a screen...but you can create something that will not change from computer to computer, a la PDF.) Thanks!

<added>Waht does "r/t" mean?</added>

Dante_Maure

6:48 am on Dec 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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How To Use Stationery In Outlook Express [support.microsoft.com]

Waht does "r/t" mean?

"Real Time" the world that exists beyond the monitor and keyboard. ;)

bodine

8:56 am on Dec 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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So it is just HTML? Why cant they just say that? Oh, wait, nevermind, it's microsoft...that explains it all.

OK. The "r/t" is this ficticious world that all of these news people talk about....we computer people are living in the "real" world! ;)

jimbo_mac

11:49 am on Dec 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>Per some earlier threads, I don't think you can send HTML via OE on the Mac

oh yes, you can.:)
there is an applescript available called Send Complex Html.

Get your html page, make sure your images are pointing to an absolute pathname on your server and not your HD, run the applescript.
there are two drawback though:
1. you can only send to one contact/person at a time.

2. once you have run the applescript you cannot open the file in outlook to view the source - you just send it.

I sent a html file to myself as a test, worked a charm.