Don’t panic Ubuntu fans but your favorite desktop Linux distribution has fallen to fourth place in DistroWatch’s latest ranking.
Ubuntu has been overtaken by Fedora, Mint, and openSUSE. Mint now holds the number one spot in all of DistroWatch’s rankings going back at least a year, which leads us to wonder why.
One reason behind this reversal of fortune for Ubuntu could be the change of default interface in version 11.04 or “Natty Narwhal”, released in April 2011. With the new Ubuntu came Unity, an interface previously seen in Ubuntu Netbook Edition, and Gnome was relegated to an option.
11:03 pm on Nov 24, 2011 (gmt 0)
Talking to a local computer maintenance guy who has an interest in Linux, he said he'd tried 11.x and it was a definite downgrade on previous versions. He mentioned some horrors (which I now forget but included the gnome episode) which began to put me off.
I began my recent linux usage on Gibbon and stayed on Hardy, when that arrived, until upgrading direct to Lucid a while ago. Have to say Hardy was faster, used less memory and seemed to have a better interface (ie less "techy" ##) than Lucid.
I may switch to Mint rather than upgrade to 11.x. I'm thinking about another machine in the new year and might begin with Mint on that (comments on this forum about Mint have been favourable).
Still, my opinion is: it's still better (and far cheaper!) than current MS offernings but I do wish there was a direct MS Access replacement! :(
## I am from a techy background but trying to use a simple computer interface.
1:18 am on Nov 25, 2011 (gmt 0)
I'm still on board that linux is now a better desktop system than Windows. I can't even bear to use a windows machine anymore, slow and annoying.
But unfortunately Linux distro's are now eating their own tails. Ubuntu seems to be spinning and my distro Mandriva is spinning circles in the sand as well unfortunately.
Too bad, at one point I figured they might actually have a chance. Not anymore, any movement towards cohesion has been lost. It's going to remain relegated to the legions of the techs.
9:32 am on Nov 25, 2011 (gmt 0)
>It's going to remain relegated to the legions of the techs.
I suspect you're right. It's a shame it cannot drag itself out of the geek-only area.
9:43 am on Nov 25, 2011 (gmt 0)
Personally, I like it (although found 11.04 a bit of a hog on my previous laptop. Haven't tried 11.10 on it yet)
When it comes to non-techies though, I do think it relies a little bit too much on knowing what program you want to run. The drill down could be more prominent and easy to use.
10:21 pm on Nov 26, 2011 (gmt 0)
How easy is it to install a different distro over the top of a working system - and still keep a working system with all the old data and apps!
EG could mint be installed on top of lucid in some way, with all the previous programs and data still working? I know both are debian but I would imagine there are some things that would not continue working?
10:39 pm on Nov 26, 2011 (gmt 0)
Can't be done..AFAIK ..but I may be wrong.. But you can run mint "live".and then if you like it install "side by side" with lucid ..and then move the data that you want to keep "over" to the mint side..and eventually remove lucid ..or keep it ..
In a side by side installation of mint and lucid, each would have access to each others folders via "mount"..
And for the windows users ( I have windows machines, but don't use them for the net ) one can install linux ( mint included obviously ) side by side with windows ( windows side installed first ) and the linux side can always see the windows side ( but never vice-versa )..this is why linux ( even live discs ) can be used to rescue data from windows when it won't boot or even to repair windows..
posted from Mint..( win7 ulti is on the other side of this machine..for updates to be passed to my other win boxen which are not allowed to connect directly to "outside" ) ..get the DVD version of Mint ( with all the codecs and the media players etc and other "pre installed stuff"..<= not bloat ware ..very useful )..not the standard smaller version..
1:56 pm on Nov 27, 2011 (gmt 0)
You can dual boot two different OS's. Or you can use something like virtualbox and run OS inside the other.
9:18 pm on Nov 27, 2011 (gmt 0)
Thanks, Guys. That, sadly, has answered my question. :)
I can never be bothered with dual booting/OS/etc. I run WINE on a laptop in order to access three Windows progs (MS-Access and two genealogy progs) and that's it. My wife runs Windows 2000 (for historical data reasons) and I have an old Windows 2000 development web server with a third machine as backup.
As noted eariler, I am likely to obtain a new desktop box in the near future - been thinking about it for months - and I may now put that one down to Mint. If that works as well as predicted hereabouts I will gradually move my Ubuntu apps/data onto it and finally rebuild the old machine to Mint - or possibly play around with it as a demo / mail / web server, which I've been promising myself for a couple of years.