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Tool / Method for finding the best link partners

How to detect PR 7 sites?

         

silverbytes

12:25 am on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Having many good sites high in PR similar in theme may be a wonderfull source of visits and help your own PR.

Now, what tools, strategies, tricks do you use for finding those cool websites?

I can find many pr 3 sites for my own. Also tried Arelis, good soft, but detects lots of irrelevant sites...

Any help?

RoadRash

12:39 am on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have had good luck with "Desktop Spider" and the google directory. However, I really don't go after high PR links, as in my niche, there are just a dozen with a PR6 and one with a PR7.

I find it much easier to get 20 PR3 links pointing to me then one PR6. The PR6 & 7 links will come when the webmaster thinks your site is good for there visitors. Most of the high PR sites have webmasters who know what they are doing... Work on your content and the link exchanges little guys, the big guys will come with time. You never know what little guy is going to be the next big player.

* I am in no way affiliated with the Desktop Spider people, but I am a satisfied user :)

rogerd

1:22 am on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Silverbytes, there are lots of ways to look for links. You can use a robot like Zeus, or roll your own if you have the skill. You can conduct targeted searches in Google and other SEs to reveal topic-related sites prone to linking. You can scan your competitor's backlinks. You can examine link pages on sites in your topic and see if those sites are linking back.

I think much of the effort goes into contacting sites and tracking their response (or lack thereof). Finding sites is often easy - identifying a contact and working to get the link is the time consuming part! There have been some good threads in this forum about novel approaches to link development - you might root around a bit for some additional ideas.

silverbytes

3:18 am on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks. I know and that's what I'm doing, but I just want to automate the process,and however checking sites one by one is consuming time.

Can't I use some program, script or something?
What is zeus?

rogerd

3:46 am on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Zeus is a program that spiders other sites, manages contacts, and creates link directories on your site. If you search Google for zeus marketing robot you should find it. A word of caution, though. Zeus has earned a bad reputation in two areas. First, novice users have used the contact manager to spam webmasters requesting links. Use this feature carefully, and be sure to create custom, personal e-mails. Second, Google has had decidedly mixed feelings about Zeus, and penalized some sites with identifiable Zeus directories. Search this site for "themeindex penalty" for some older discussions of this topic. If you use the directory generation feature, be sure to change all defaults and in general make sure there are no Zeus footprints in your code. (On the plus side, Google seems to be running Adwords for Zeus, so perhaps they aren't mortal enemies.) Overall, exercise caution in using ANY link generation tool. Links are an important part of Google's algorithm, and Google gets very nervous about anything that appears to create artificial linking patterns. And even if YOUR use of the tool is kosher, you don't want to get sucked into a mass penalty because of other poorly behaved users.

mil2k

7:15 am on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some of the methods can be found in this thread :-

[webmasterworld.com ] HTH :)

silverbytes

3:34 pm on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Very usefull guys! Thank you.

To be honest I'm facing a problem getting link partners to my site even when it's ranked #1 in relevant Google searches... I don't know if my method is bad or webmasters and site owners has no interest at all... I'm sure many of them ignores the benefits...
I follow all guidelines and send personal emails, including a link in my site first, but still can't get responses...

rogerd

5:17 pm on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm facing a problem getting link partners to my site

Silverbytes, one important aspect of snagging link partners is having a site that people find useful. I look at link requests for a few seconds - if the site lacks good content or is very poorly designed, no link. If I say, "Wow, what a great site! Wonder why I never stumbled across this myself...", a link is far more likely.

In your e-mail, give the site owner a good reason to link to you, e.g., "Your widget lovers will find my content section on how to care for damaged widgets very useful". Be sure your link page is visible and easy to find.

Site selection can make a difference, too. Contact sites that are on-topic for your site, and focus on sites that currently have links. Getting the first outbound link on a site with no previous links is a great accomplishment, but the time you'll invest in wasted contacts is likely to be prohibitive. On-topic, link-ready sites are far more likely to respond.

silverbytes

5:27 pm on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What do you say about that:

[zeuscollective.com...]

Is it dangerous? Should I check every source code of every link to ensure those aren't zeus automatic link farms?

Seems to be a good way to find ppl intrested in link exchange and related themed as well.

zagood

9:42 pm on Jul 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In our office we pretty much avoid Zeus-generated link sections as much as we can. As far as the Zeus Collective, first thing to tip you off should be their gray toolbar lol...but it could be a good place to find link partners. Not all Zeus directories are bad, it just depends on how they're used.

Like guns.

-z

Mr_Busby

3:23 am on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What is 'Desktop Spider' - and where can I find it? Sounds useful...

RoadRash

5:22 am on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I sent you a sticky about that application, not sure if i can drop URLs in threads... Its just one more tool to get links.

frankaltea

12:04 pm on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)



can you not just give the url?

otherwise, i'm also interested at checking out 'desktop spider'

RoadRash

8:10 pm on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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http*//www.scamfreezone.com/spider/

Lots of hype and selling on that page, but the tool does work, a great time saver.