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Monitoring Competitors Traffic

Is it possible?

         

jgold454

11:43 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was wondering if there was any way to see where my competitors are getting there traffic from, i.e. search engines, online yellow pages, reciprocal links, etc....?

CollateralEstoppel

12:04 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Short Answer: Maybe

The first thing you're going to want to look at are the backlinks. This will show you if there are other websites where your competitor is advertising or where it's receiving free traffic.

Also, many websites have public website stats available (whether they know it or not). Search the source code of the website and look for a tracking script, then try to login to the webstats program with the username from the competitor's source code. Several free traffic stat programs don't require passwords if you get the username from the source. The traffic stats will probably offer a wealth of information regarding your interests including referral information.

You could also check out the Alexa Rankings for your competitors site. I don't really trust the Alexa numbers, and it won't show you exactly where your competitor's traffic is coming from, but it may give you some idea of how much traffic they're receiving, and where else your competitor's visitors may be going.

Lastly, take a look at the pay per click engines, and see if your competitor is advertising there. Overture, Google, Findwhat, etc. If your client is paying for per click advertising, then you can be certain they're receiving some traffic from the engines.

coconutz

12:57 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Search AltaVista for "link:extreme-dm.com keyword" without the quotes. There are a number of sites using this free tracker.

TravelSite

10:05 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Use keyword tools (e.g. Overtures).

Users often enter a companys name or url into search engines, as oppossed to entering it direct into their browsers address bar. Therefore these tools actually contain a good indication of site popularity.

Enter <YourCompany> into the Overture keyword tool and you will see how many users searched for your site. Do the same with your competitors site (make sure you enter all possible misspellings of company names). This will give you a good indication of how competitors traffic compares to the traffic on your site.

edit_g

10:20 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One of the best ways is using a "panel based" tool like Hitwise. They have deals with ISP's so that they can track where the participating ISP's users surf. You can see where people go after a site and where they were before a site - it isn't foolproof, but quite representative depending on what country you are ine. It is also a lot better than Alexa (which is next to useless). It is also a very expensive service...

menton

11:32 am on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi everybody,

Check out alexa and interperit the results with a pinch of salt. I use it every now and then for this purpose.

menton

johnser

9:33 pm on Jul 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was going to say hitwise also before I saw edit_g's post above. Very dear but excellent quality data.
J

firstmark

6:00 am on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would say checking number of directory listings in Yahoo, ODP, and Looksmart, along with backlinks and number of pages they have and page rank will give you a good idea where their traffic is coming from.
Knowing this does not mean you can achieve the same traffic they did from the same sources.

Key_Master

6:36 am on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Always check:

[insert-domain-name-here...]

marcs

5:28 am on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Key_Master has obviously done this before :)

Check not only /stats but directories in which stats packages usually live. Once you have compiled that list, one could quickly write a script to see if a stats package is installed and results publicly available on a target site.

jgold454

12:27 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thank you all for all the usefule information!

jgold454

12:28 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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usefull :)

jgold454

12:28 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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which directories do stats packages usually exist?

mistah

12:50 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've found a few sites that seem to have something in the stats directory. But I always seem to get a pop-up box asking for a username and password.

trillianjedi

12:55 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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90% of the time I find them in root:-

domain.com/stats
domain.com/sitestats
domain.com/log
domain.com/weblog

etc etc

Just take a wild guess. You get pretty good at it.

Also if you link to the other site you often find their stats page in your own logs (they click on you to see where the link came from). That can yield a lot of useful info.

Always amazes me how some people have not password protected their stats.

Theres gold in them thar hills......

TJ

anallawalla

2:03 pm on Aug 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some also live in /cgi-bin as Perl scripts.

Skier

6:17 pm on Sep 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thank you all.
What a gold mine of information you have led me into.

People, you really should check to see that your statistics are secure from snoopers.