Cant find many sites to link from

ideas?

[Andrew Thomas]

Im trying to find sites to backlink from, I only have a pagerank of 3 (was 4 before the last update).

Im finding it very hard to find many sites to link from within my field with pageranks of 5 or above. Id thought it would have been easy to find these but im talking of only a very few (10 at most).

I read on this forum with people having 200 or more backlinks, are they all topic related or just any old backlink?

My area is in the <snip keyword> - not selling just advertising <snip>?

If any one has any ideas where these links can be found please let me know.

Also does every one pay for backlinks as all the ones ive found are paying ones, not link exhanges

thanks

[edited by: paynt at 3:39 pm (utc) on May 2, 2003]
[edit reason] no keyword details, sorry [/edit]

[stevegpan2]

I have a site pr 4 and one pr5. I found it very time consuming to do this.

Is there a place where people who are interested in link exchange get together and do the links quickly?

regards,

[paynt]

Just be careful with this discussion. No link exchanges on board. We need to talk in general terms.

[EBear]

Andrew,

Read this forum. It's full of good stuff. In particular, Paynt started a thread here [webmasterworld.com] that deserves a PR10.

Quick places to start:

Search for link:www.yourcompetitor.com for your main competitors.

Search for

camping + "add a link"

(or submit a site, etc., along with nice wide, generic words or your location).

Don't be too strung up on finding PR5s. They don't exist for every keyphrase, so if you're focusing in on a narrow geographical location there may not be many. Look wider - camp sites on the other side of the world will do, camping accessories shops, tour guides and visitoe attractions in your own area. Try hotel suppliers - offer to feed them the hotel-seekers you get in exchange for the campers they get.

stevegpan2

>I found it very time consuming to do this.

Yep ;)

[webwoman]

A year ago I went on a linking frenzy for one of my sites. Many of the "any old links" that I got back then have now moved up in PR and I'm glad I wasn't too picky back then. Mostly it was because I didn't know any better :) Yes, it *is* very time consuming. You have to get in the frame of mind and doggedly do it, and your rewards don't always come right away, but it's worth doing.

[paynt]

Thanks Ebear for referencing the thread and for the PR10, are you listening Google? <grin><hehe>

What it comes down to is the work can be a chore or an opportunity. When we think of ‘linking’ as a chore we hire a college student to do it and pay them per link. When we think of it as an opportunity then we use it to network, to open new audiences and markets. Linking is a tool to draw new visitors to the door.

Tip: Don’t cut yourself short in research. Do it yourself or pay a pro, there are discussions in the forums that will help, I’ve provided a few myself.

[topr8]

Tip: Don’t cut yourself short in research.

never underestimate the importance of the above - i couldn't have put it better myself.

when i first got into linking seriously i discovered DIAMONDS about my industry.

... as a total bonus to the links that i gained, the research in itself and the lateral thinking i did/do to seek new angles has given me untold insight into a business i have been involved in all my life and had thought i was quite a master of!

[martinibuster]

yeah, it's a good idea to read the link development forum. Like this fabulous thread.

[webmasterworld.com ]

[paynt]

Bravo topr8. That's feedback people need to hear more about.

[stevegpan2]

hello masters,

I have a straight forward question:
How many (pr5, pr4)links I need to make a pr5 to be pr6?
How many (pr5, pr4)links I need to make a pr4 to be pr5?

paynt's thread is great. I believe I hit it many times. long thread though.

[Andrew Thomas]

Thanks for all your comments and the advised thread, Im getting broadband next week so i will spend a lot of time getting and researching my links and not have to worry about the phone bill building up :)

talking of Diamonds - ive found a few on this forum

thanks

[stevegpan2]

Yeah, I am going to do the fun stuff too.
But I already found some spams or diamonds. Depends on Google's standards....

[PFOnline]

This thread [webmasterworld.com] is filled with beautiful ideas and great ways to get some more links to your site!

Grab a Mountain Dew, (or something else with alot of caffeine) sit back, and try some of them!

If you do, your bound to find at least a few new good links!

[edited by: PFOnline at 9:51 pm (utc) on May 2, 2003]

[stevegpan2]

I just read another thread and find out mt pr is pos=22 neg=18.

SO that means I am pr 5.5. So how many backlinks I need to get pr6?

5 more pr5 backlinks?

Thanks,

[kawikadave]

Best way to get links? - Create quality content!

I have a site I've worked on for over a year and have done some modest link development. My best success, however, came from two premier non-commercial sites in my category.

They noticed my site, reviewed it for quality, made suggestions, and then put links in the "related web sites section" of their PR8 (now PR7) homepage.

I was thrilled and amazed once I realized what was happening after they sent their third email offering suggestions for my site.

If I had spent the past 12 months focusing on: "I don't usually do this, but would you please put a link on your site" email messages instead of differentiating and improving my site every day, this never would have happened.

I'm not saying those messages aren't worthwhile, but make sure don't create a "me-too" kind of site and then spend all your time trying to get people to link to it.

Quality will draw a lot of attention in time and links will come out of the woodwork.

My two cents

[webwoman]

Excellent point, kawikadave. And worth considerably more than 2 cents :)