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Are multiple links from one domain good?

         

darkroom

7:02 pm on Apr 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hi guys..a question..i have about 30 pages of links on my website..and i am inserting their website's links in all the 30 pages having a PR of 7....is this considered good as far as the link popularity is concerned? does google treats each link as 30 independent links? or just one link since its comign from one site?
would you prefer linking to 30 links or just one link of the same website?

paynt

9:11 pm on Apr 5, 2003 (gmt 0)



Hi darkroom, I’m trying to understand your question, starting with…

> I have about 30 pages of links on my website

Question? I mean from where? Your own? Reciprocal links?

> I am inserting their website's links in all the 30 pages having a PR of 7.

Question? I need more information. This isn’t clear to me and I can’t answer. I need more specific (not keywords or url’s but data) to give you any type of answer or dialogue here, sorry.

darkroom

9:41 pm on Apr 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry for the bad email. Actually i was in a hurry so i explain my question properly.
by 30 links page, i mean 30 links page on someone else's page...that guy's website has 30 link pages on his website...each having a PR of 7..i am planning on placing my a link to my website on 30 pages of his website. So that i can have 30 reciprocal links from his website. But i dont know how google treats this. Is this counted as one single link or as 30 independent reciprocal links?
Would you recommend me in placing a link to my website on 30 of his links page or should i just put one link to my website on his website..?

i hope this is a little more clear

tigger

5:31 am on Apr 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi darkroom

I think I understand you, you are saying that he has 30 pages where he places links and he's offering to place a link to you on each page which has a PR7, I hope I've got that right

I've come across quite a few sites that have multiple page link exchanges and I'm sure in most cases that these are sites owned by the same webmasters but it does look very spammy and just done to build PR and I'm sure Google would not look well on this.

If I was you I would just go for one exchange, if his links pages have a PR7 find a page that’s not got too many links on and ask for a link on that page, a good link from a PR7 page will certainly help you.

I would be interested to hear other peoples views on this, should someone offer to place a large amount of links on his site

darkroom

5:47 am on Apr 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hi tigger..thanx for your reply..finally someone understood my question :-)))
so you are saying that if you were me then you would place only one link to his site..but the greed of having 15 links to his PR7 is encouraging me to tell him to place in all the 15 pages...also, there isnt' any harm i can see since google wouldn't care...considering nowadays getting 15 links with PR7 is not very easy to do
but i am still unsure..
i would definately look for more views of people..

mat_bastian

7:33 am on Apr 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think it's your call. You can roll the dice and be greedy, but the cost of that may be google being unhappy, or you can take one link and be happy, the cost being... well, I don't see any negative from the single link. You gotta decide if you wanna walk out on that tightrope.

tigger

7:54 am on Apr 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As mat said "it's your call" and I totally understand how tempting it is to take his offer and grab the lot, but if was me I wouldn't.

I was offered 8,000 links from a site last week, albeit most were PR3/4 the offer was there but I turned it down and just went for one, still get the sweats now thinking about it :)

Powdork

8:25 am on Apr 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If he has 30 link pages with a pr of 7 it is a good idea to see if those pages are full page framesets with the frame the link is coming from having a much lower pr. I've found this to most often be the case when I come across an easy unrealistically high pr link.

glengara

9:18 am on Apr 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good call Powdork, I'd also be interested to know why he's offering this; if I had PR7 links pages I certainly wouldn't.

buzzmaster

11:14 pm on Apr 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I posted this in another thread (in another forum) but it was probably in the wrong place.

What if you've got 2 sites. One markets regional widgets and one is nationwide.

The one that markets regionally actually ranks higher than the one that markets nationwide and therefore gets lots of clicks from visitors outside the region.

What if I include a one-way link from each page of the regional site to the home page of the site that markets nationally (25 or so pages). Sort of like "for widgets outside our market check xxx".

This would not be reciprocal or cross-link because the site that markets nationally would be capable of handling all requests and therefore wouldn't have a reason to send traffic elsewhere.

The purpose for including these links would be two-fold:
1) It would assist our visitors and drive traffic.
2) It would also help the nationwide site with themed links to gain higher PR (or whatever the non-google engines call 'credibility').

I've been doing this with javascript links on the sub-pages so that I wouldn't be penalized by google. I've noticed that visitors do in fact click from the regional site to the nationwide site from all pages of the regional one. Would it be ok to remove the javascript and use standard html links? It seems a little paranoid because this is something done for the visitors and not designed simply to inflate PR.

I saw one of my competitors doing something like what I'm considering. They have an existing site and it is the only link into their new site (from each page). The new site carries the same PR5 as the original site with no other external links. It wasn't a problem for them.

Other factors are that the national site has close to 50 incoming links from reciprocal links, directories, ODP, Yahoo, etc. The national site has roughly 1500+ pages that were crawled by google.

What if I mixed the pages on the national site that I link to from the regional one?

Thanks in advance for any input.

Oaf357

8:31 pm on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Let's say for example that a site (site A) utilizes a product or service from another site (site B) and site B requires that every place their product/service is used a link back to their site is required (for whatever reason). Site A will obviously comply because they don't want to get hit up with a lawsuit (or something).

So site A has this product or service on (we'll say) 10% of its pages. Would that penalize site B due to too many links from one domain?

buzzmaster

8:40 pm on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In the same token look at this group of forums and you'll notice a link at the bottom of each and every page for the hosting provider.

I tend to believe that "mass" one-way links from each page of a site aren't a problem.

These types of link arrangements are used by affiliates, sponsors, hosting providers, content management software systems, etc.

buzzmaster

8:42 pm on Apr 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm a bit tentative though because when you're trying to "brand" a website you really can't afford a mistake. No way I could just start over with a new domain name. I would prefer to err on the side of caution but at the same time I don't want to be paranoid about it.