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PR6 or PR0?

         

BaseballGuy

5:35 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)



I recently got a link from a website.

The page that links to me (according to the toolbar on Firefox) has a PR0.

When I go to the main page of the website, it has a PR6.

Did I get a link from a PR0 site or a PR6 site?

The page that linked to me was brand new and created by the owner with the specific intent of writing an article and linking back to me. (they did it all by themselves, I did not do a link request).

Thanks for helping clear up the confusion.

MadeWillis

6:42 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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TBPR is not reliable

ken_b

6:57 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Page Rank is for a given page, it is not "site wide".

It sounds like you got a link from a PR0 page on a site that has a PR6 homepage.

buckworks

9:00 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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PR applies to pages, not sites. You got a link from a PRx page.

MadeWillis is right; the visible toolbar PR is not very reliable. So don't worry too much about PR. Instead, keep your primary focus on relevance. If you work at gaining links that make good sense to users, PR tends to look after itself.

cnvi

10:34 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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forget about PR. Get links from sites relevant to yours, especially sites with low PR because a new website with low PR today will be an old website with higher PR in a few years from now.

BaseballGuy

11:10 pm on Apr 14, 2009 (gmt 0)



I realize PR is somewhat (read: totally) unreliable.

thanks

willybfriendly

4:23 am on Apr 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I would look to how the page in question is being linked to from the PR6 homepage (or if it is for that matter - it might even be an orphan page).

There are, uh, less than forthcoming webmasters out there. If this was a link exchange then you might want to reconsider (based on futher investigation) how you want to "reciprocate".

piatkow

11:56 am on Apr 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have never worried about PR and always gone for natural links from related sites. The result is top 3 position for all key search arguements.

The links don't bring as much traffic as the search engines but they bring in enough to justify themselves in their own right.

tigger

12:03 pm on Apr 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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other than the toolbar what else can be used to get a better indication of PR - not that it matters ;o) just nice to know if you have a real PR10 link or not ;o)

Shaddows

12:13 pm on Apr 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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To paraphrase the OP
"I got a NATURAL link from a site with a high-PR homepage. The lack of TBPR is explained by the fact the page is brand new. My link was there from the start, and given the page was written FOR me, it has bang-on relevance.

Is it a good link?"

I would say YES, very much so- with the following qualifiers:
1) The 'tribute' page is relevant to the rest of site
2) The link from tribute is not NF (and the page header does not have meta-NF)
3) The 'tribute' page is not orphaned
4) Assuming (3), that the link is not NF (or meta-NF)

The best possible scenario is that:
1) Site is relevent to you (not just tribute page)
2) Tribute page has prominant, inline link on site's home page
3) Tribute is in internal Nav
4) Tribute is otherwise in-line referenced on other pages of site
5) Tribute page has an inline link to deep page on your site
6) Tribute page has additional link to your homepage (not necessarily inline)
7) Your site is only outbound link on page

And a bonus:
8) Your site is casually mentioned elsewhere on his site

[edited by: Shaddows at 12:16 pm (utc) on April 16, 2009]

nealrodriguez

2:10 pm on Apr 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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i have seen this frequently on my sites where the homepage has a high pr, but new pages show 0 tbpr when the page is just posted. what typically happens is that pr will show on the new page in about a week or a few week's time; i haven't timed exactly, but i know that if i return to the page with 0 pr initially after some time, it shows equivalent or mostly a point less of pr than the homepage.

Slinger

11:07 pm on Apr 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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TBPR = An evil monster that has become a broken maze of endless hopes and dreams of gray'd-out pages. Once, it had a future, a purpose, a dream...like a rainbow after a rain in the sun...but then...the rainbow was GRAYED OUT...and the rest is Gray'd-out history. 200 dynamically charged constantly changing targets, and a Page Rank that is as unstable as one of those fast food drinking cups that are smaller at the bottom, just so you can go home and spill it...why? why?,,,,,we all ask. Why does this creature live and breath on our earth? Die TBPR! Die why dont you! Your broken...and your all gray'd up!

potentialgeek

3:17 am on Apr 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The Toolbar may be wrong, but there is a PR Tool out there which gives the PR from a few different datacenters. Some webmasters now use another tool which tells you Page Strength instead of PR. It uses several streams of data instead of just PR.

BaseballGuy

3:05 am on Apr 18, 2009 (gmt 0)



Thanks all....

Shadow: You mentioned "header NF". I had no idea you could NF the entire page just by meta NF in the header....

Do most bigger sites do this? A carpet-bomb NF for the entire page?

Shaddows

3:10 pm on Apr 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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<meta name="robots" content="nofollow" />

Check for that in the header, or install an add-on for FF.

It's exactly equivalent to adding nofollow on every link. It's widespread on UGC, and is getting more common among PR hoarders, but most honest webmasters "follow" editorial links.