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And with little success.
I did a google search
widget catergory :.edu
however found .edu's mainly want academic links which are difficult
So then i moved on to
:link www.competitor.com
and got a few links but not that many
Tried searching wordpress for catergory
and got loads of blog links but are they spam ?
So then i tried different sites like .de .co.uk and got a few more.
So how much time do you spend on getting links ? and how successful are you
one hour a day which is just like surfing and checking out the competition
one hour a week ?
Are there any links spots hidden away any where or search that are unknown ?
It's work. It won't always be successful. But there's a ton of links to be had by doing nothing other than that.
search on:
widgets
red widgets
blue widgets
widget financing
widget hacks
buy widgets online
red widgets vs. blue widgets
widget directory
widget blogs
And during all that, you'll find other links pages with long lists of sites related to widgets; visit all of them too for potential link development.
Let's say you do 50 search terms. You now have 50 search terms times 50 websites times say 200 backlinks each, so you've got at least 50,000 websites to check.
Surely you can find a couple hundred people to link to you out of 50,000 websites?
Surely you can find a couple hundred people to link to you out of 50,000 websites?
And how will you tell people on 50k sites about this opportunity to link to you?
The OP is concerned that he's not finding enough potential targets. wheel is showing how it's not for lack of potential targets.
one hour a week ?
Someone on this forum once said that link development is like working out for physical fitness. The first or the second or the fifth time you work out you won't notice much progress, but if you kept it up regularly you'd be in noticeably better shape a year from now.
Figure out what you need to do, then keep doing it.
The OP is concerned that he's not finding enough potential targets. wheel is showing how it's not for lack of potential targets
I suppose so. It seems to me the answer to this problem is trying to focus on best candidates first rather than get high volume of worthless backlinks that may only trigger the penalty.
The problem is how to find the best candidates first. OP can't find them. Wheel showed him how. ;)
The problem is how to find the best candidates first.
Analysing competitor backlinks and picking up those of them that are the best (ie pages that in turn have good backlinks) and available - this was mentioned above, the main trick is where you get those backlinks for analysis, the approach suggested above is, ummm, limited in many ways ;)
I can think of several tools that could make the job easier, but much productive research could be done with nothing more than a systematic searching plan and a text file to take notes. Or even pen and paper!
The important thing here is for the user to have a methodology. Without that, all the tools in the world won't help.
I generally ignore such emails and the only time I did the above, it was a complete bust. Mind you, I did not persist, I went back to tool building.
Anyway, my failings aside, do you find that a sufficient percentage of webmasters will take the time to link to your site ?
I suppose the immediate wow factor of your site counts for a lot too
Forums
I have found a forum which accepts links in my catergory although most large forums do not have this luxury , also is not crawled yet. This forum has very few posts though and it means I gotta regularily be creative.Contemplating the idea of creating my own forum.
Classifieds
I have found classified can serve a dual purpose of links with a small pr and advertising , the downside is that it is time consuming and threads are purged after a certain time period.
Blogs
I have tried a few blogs with a signature. Ended up creating my own blog ?
social networking sites
I have created a group with a link , have yet to see the result.
(yay one link!) but thinking of posting regularily on it.
Cross promotion
Found a cross promotion site which enables you to do cross promotion with various small business , had a few responses . Quite clever.
Bookmarking sites
toying with the idea...is it worth it.
Emails to webmasters
I have sent a few with limited success.i think its a bit like the insurance cold calling game : 50 propositions , 10 responses , 1 link.
Some ideas i am contemplating :
1.online video content
2. Dynamic content.
thats about it.
Regards
Malcolm
>>I generally ignore such emails and the only time I did the above, it was a complete bust. Mind you, I did not persist, I went back to tool building.
I ignore them too. Most of them anyway. Others don't. You don't ask for a link - you have to convince them that it's in their best interests to give you a link. Your site is cool. Or funny. Or of interest to their visitors. If you have interesting research data for example you can get college professors to link to you.
>>>I have sent a few with limited success.i think its a bit like the insurance cold calling game : 50 propositions , 10 responses , 1 link.
That is *exactly* what it is. I don't send out 10 emails and get 10 links. I send out 10 very personalized, very targetted emails to specific webmasters or site owners detailing why they specifically would link to me (it's different for all 10 of them). And I get 1 link back. Then I do it again. And again. And all of a sudden I have a whole bunch of authority links.
>>>>my top rival has about 1000 links . 1500 including internal links.
My top rival has 25,000 links in Yahoo. My site has 5,000 (and 80% of those are not developed, they're MFA's and scrapers). So they have 5 times the number of links. And they've got better onpage optimization and more content. Yet I outrank them on just about everything. That shows you how useful 'volume' is as a metric of backlinks. You can outrank them easily with fewer, better links.
And how will you tell people on 50k sites about this opportunity to link to you?
Visit the sites and look for contact info. Perferably a good email address. Avoid using general email addresses whenever possible, such as webmaster@domain.com and the like. Sending personalized emails will do you much better than sending a mass templated email to 50k adresses.
The majority of webmasters probably get link requests all the time, so make sure your looks different and personal!
Some backlink checker tools also available so you can use search backlink of some other sites which is related to yours
Yahoo's site explorer is a great free tool.
[edited by: MadeWillis at 6:06 pm (utc) on July 29, 2008]
I send out 10 very personalized, very targetted emails to specific webmasters or site owners detailing why they specifically would link to me (it's different for all 10 of them). And I get 1 link back. Then I do it again. And again. And all of a sudden I have a whole bunch of authority links
I agree. Very personalised using a templated base to save creative thinking time, is probably the way to go. You can vary or evolve the template as experience and circumstances dictate.
