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What if hotlinked images counted as 'votes'?

         

Matt Probert

7:14 am on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What if Google et al considered hot linked images as 'votes' for the domain they linked into....

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LifeinAsia

3:29 pm on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Nice idea, but like most good ideas it could easily be gamed. Everyone would just get a bunch of domains and hotlink back to their own images. We'd probably see a bunch of spammy image/link requests ("Hey buddy, you hotlink to a 1x1 pixel transparent image on my site and I'll hotlink to a 1x1 pixel transparent image on your site."

Matt Probert

5:52 pm on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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How our minds differ!

I was thinking it may stop people hot linking my images. I never considered using the technique for nefarious purposes! Silly me!

Doh!

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londrum

5:59 pm on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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it's not such a bad idea, if they find ways to get past all the cheating. maybe they could just limit it to image search.

if a thousand people hotlinked someone's apple, you can be sure that it's a good picture of an apple. at least the owner would get some benefit then, coming top of the image search results.

RandomDot

6:55 pm on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Uhrm, back in 2004 it worked for images for a certain size... which improved the rank of the article it belonged to on the website.

What? - Yah. I had some articles back then which had 2 images in each article, and ranked like #2058 on google - at some point people began to hotlink those images from my server to their websites - a month or so later, the articles which they were related to ranked #2-3 on Google on the keywords used in the images alt-text and the nameofpicture.jpg

But don't know if it works anymore... and would depend on the picture and reputation of your site in general...

wheel

10:06 pm on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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That'd be awesome. Can you imagine how many free image libraries there'd be? There'd be more great pictures of houses hotlinking to realtor sites than you could shake a stick at.

Not sure how that'd work in the payday loan market. Pics of loan sharks? :).

LifeinAsia

11:42 pm on Sep 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I never considered using the technique for nefarious purposes!

Yeah, I guess that says somethign about me when that's the first thing I thought about. :)

RandomDot

5:51 pm on Sep 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure, i never had a business website, has always been entertainment/information sites which didn't sell anything or linked to anybody who did, I think the algorithm is different for people who sells services and stuff and such...

They're usually much more limited in the way they gain reputation, thus also decreasing the methods and link styles alot which makes them "hot" in their respective areas, so it probably wouldn't work for them....

I was lucky with those pictures in the articles, was just something everybody else had overlooked doing but which was high in demand and which googles algorithm recognized as being of a certain relevant standard in their image search, which gave me a couple of thousand visitors each day, and some attractive photos which were hotlinked alot of other places and then also counted as votes for my articles (which was the reason I ranked high in the image search to begin with), thus they gained alot of reputation algorithmically and the articles showed up on those very, very popular keyword searches..

londrum

6:50 pm on Sep 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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so, in your experience, a hotlinked image is as good as having a normal link - it gives you the same benefit.

RandomDot

10:31 pm on Sep 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

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No, no, and no. The thing is that I don't think google is using the same algorithm for everybody and thus a link is not just a link, no matter if it's a hotlinked image, or any other way of referring to a website, in a general sense of the word. I don't think that google actually just measures everybody by the same standard as they did in the beginning - that would be blatantly stupid as the internet has evolved.

I believe, based on my limited experience, and the network I usually see changes and rankings on which is based on google - that they have other algorithms which counts for and against you - depending on various factors such as your business, keyword popularity, and so on, and all that statistical data they have at their disposal is not just lying around doing nothing.

And to be honest, in some of their models - a link can count very heavily against you - especially on relevant websites because they're in your competitive range if you're in the business or service industry... but it's a long and complex discussion and not one i'm willing to pursue here. Stop caring about what google does, and do what needs to be done.... if you have an image, then let people hotlink it everywhere they want - then just update the original picture with a huge sign with your url on it. Bam. Instant advertising.

[edited by: RandomDot at 10:32 pm (utc) on Sep. 21, 2007]