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stevelibby

2:40 pm on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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i have been following the comments today with reference to the rel="nofollow" tag, maybe i have read to much on it, i have a directory with some sites that pay for listings and some that dont, i am thinking that the no follow tag could be very useful to those whom dont pay to be in my directory. And then when they do then i release the no follow, is this the right way to use the tag or not, some posts say yes, some say no. Is it just a way for G to filter out subscription sites in future updates?

Quadrille

7:31 pm on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You'd likely do better using nofollow the other way round!

nofollow was designed for sites such as forums, where 'outsiders' could post links on YOUR site; as you would not necessarily recommend those sites to yuor visitors, nofollow protects you from the consequences of others' actions.

If you run a directory, then no free sites would be listed unless you were agreeing they were worthy of a listing ... so you do not need nofollow.

On the other hand, sites paying for a listing may be sites you would not be listing unless they paid ... so you might like to consider nofollow, rather than be caught for selling paidlinks.

I suspect you've been a little misinformed about nofollow - read Google's advice on it - and you may have missed some of the recent developments on paidlinks.

leadegroot

12:07 pm on Jun 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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In theory, if you take the payment in order to review the site (rather than just as payment to get in the dir), and you do reject some, then you could do it the way you suggest.
But are you game to risk it? :(

londrum

12:53 pm on Jun 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

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maybe you could give proper links to everyone (eg, no javascript and no nofollow), but make them pay if they want a better placing.
put paid links above the fold, for example, or highlight them. or let them include a description as well, instead of just a title. or let them include a thumbnail of the homepage or something.

stevelibby

8:50 am on Jul 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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i have noticed recently due to the nature of the directory business that the sites come and go and then replaced by a holding pages and so on, whereas those that pay would keep there site s my site is a yearly subscription. My idea was to no follow the non paid sites, thus protecting me from linking to a suspect site and also keeping my category of sit ethe same.

Woz

9:15 am on Jul 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As Quadrille says, the original intention of no-follow was to indicate that a link was placed by a third party (e.g., in blog comments, fora, etc.) and so it's trust could possibly be brought into question.

Therefor, if you place links in a site where you have control over content, then it is fair to infer that you trust those links, otherwise you would not have placed them, and so no-follow is not needed.

Personally, no link appears on a site I control unless I deem it worthy. Therefor, I do not use no-follow.

There is now the attempt to expand the usage of no-follow beyond it's original intention to include notification of paid links. Many people have questioned this expansion and indeed, how one defines a paid link. I would suggest you have a look at the major directories and see if they use no-follow or not and you will have your answer.

The message from Search Engines these days seems to be to "build for the users". So, if you are building a quality directory with the user in prime consideration, then there should be no need of bells and whistles that have no bearing on the user as all.

Sometimes we think too deeply about these things and get caught up in intricacies that really don't matter. Often it is just better to keep on with the basics.

Onya
Woz

abhishekkaushik

10:21 am on Jul 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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In order to retain the credibility of your directory you need to dig out deserving pages, list them and pass PR, the paid listing must be kept at secondary preference.

bava_seo

1:50 pm on Jul 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
Recently i have applied rel=nofollow tag to external links of my site so that google can see the nofollow tag and doesn't crawl those links for which i inserted nofollow tag but my idea was wrong these has not happened . Google will crawl the links which has nofollow tag also so there is no meaning of inserting rel=nofollow tags to the site which has full control by owner of the site.

No use of keeping rel=nofollow tag in the onsites (outbound links ) google will crawl the links, This is my experience which i has faced befor a week, I was shocked when i see the that link with nofollow is get cached by google.

I think rel=nofollow is specially meant for blogs only so why google is crawling the link from the onsites.

Quadrille

2:46 pm on Jul 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Read up on what nofollow is for; don't confuse it with robots.txt, noindex or nocache.

nofollow links have always been followed by SEs, and this has never been a secret.

What doesn't follow is any ranking or 'credit' or 'blame' for those links.

It's nothing to do with stopping spiders; it's to do with stopping some of the effects of linking, not linking itself. nofollow links work perfectly as links - so spiders will always follow them.

bava_seo

7:09 am on Jul 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
I mean to say is,
I inserted nofollow tag to external links who are our competitors not to others bcoz for our competitors they are gaining quality one way back link from my site and now they are ranking high for few keywords on positions 1 and 2 in google search engine so because of this reason i have inserted nofollow tag to the out bound links (for our competitor links ).
google crawled the link it means that Google visited the link and found nofollow tag to the link right? then in this case Google should not give any weightage or credit to the link. but it has not happened - our competators has not got down in google rankings still they are high in the rankings , why i don't know if Google is not giving any credit to the link then still how come they will come on top positions.

one more thing i would like to let you know that competitors are not getting any back links from any other sites, the only site is ours who is giving oneway link so i inserted nofollow tag to avoid but it has not worked.

Quadrille

9:47 am on Jul 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You are assuming that your rivals are getting value from your links; how can you possibly know where they are getting their ranking benefit from?

If you have a properly set up nofollow, it isn't from you - though they may be getting visitors from you.

There's rarely much value in obsessing about your rivals; much better to concentrate on your own site, and be sure it gets the rankings it deserves. You can learn from rivals, for sure - but you can never know 100%, what makes them tick, and you'll risk madness trying ;)

bava_seo

6:26 am on Jul 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
our rivals was not getting any back links from any other related site other than my site , so iam sure they are getting high rankings in google bcoz of the link which is placed in my site, i tested how nofollow will work but it wasn't so no i have removed the links from my site.
Now i can asure that my site will beat the rivals, if my doesn't improve by this method also then i can agree with you that nofollow is working fine for external links (owner site )also.
Good thing is we are going with nice discussion hope we will continue this discussions in future and not to stick for only one topic we will have discussions for all topics by this we will both get benifits by knowing new things mutually.