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Im new to the link buying game... But, i just contacted a site about buying links and asked about their rates...
I was told ~ $200-$300/month for a text link with a paragraph of text on a content page (not a links page). I personally am looking at buying links for traffic and sales, so im wondering if this is worth it or not....
They already seem to be affilates of my competitors (big guys in the industry). I guess i dont know if i will get any converting traffic from this site for my $300 bucks... They are extremly on topic, but again the prime spots seem to be reserved for the affiliate stuff they promote...
What are your thoughts? Is it worth it? What should i ask for when evaluating this offer? Traffic, stats, etc.... Should i ask for and average CTR on pverall ads they serve?
Please provide as much detail as you can! As im such a newb at this its not even funny...
The very fact that they're offering links on a retail basis would tend to scare me off. Unless there's something about the site that you just gotta have a link there, you're far better off finding your own links. You can likely get as good or better links, cheaper, if you do a bit of work to find them.
Buy your link based upon the traffic you expect to get, not the SEO benefits. As a rough calculation, find out how many unique visitors they get to the page, assume one in twenty will click through to you, and figure out what that traffic is worth using whatever kind of monetisation you use. i.e. they have 1000 uniques a day to the page, estimate you will get 50 clicks a day, if you convert 2% of traffic to an affiliate sale of average commission $10, then 50 clicks x 2% x $10 = $10/day, or $300 a month, covering your costs but not leaving you in profit.
Not so. Depending on your market, buying strictly on SEO benefit can be the entire point. A $300/year paid link, if it boosts your ranking can bring in (indirectly, as a result of increased rankings) lots of traffic, just not from the site itself.
Im not quite sure how to evaluate the cost basis.. At this point, im not really interested in SEO (right now that is, for money outlay got to get sales first, then i can buy simply for SEO).
What kind of questions should i ask? How negotiable is price?
Also, one thing that concerns me is that i would be on the same page as my competitors or (my larger competitors actually get better positions as portions of this site seem to be affiliates of several larger competitors)..... The annoying part, is that the MOST on topic pages are used for the affiliate relationships.
Would it be possible to negotiate some time free, before i pay for it to try out the traffic? I mean if i pay 300 dollars would it be out of the ordinary to ask for a trial period, if its good, i wont mind paying that amount.
Also, they have an email listing option for $150 per edition. That to me sounds really high, would love to hear your thoughts on that as well....
However, there's plenty of top performing links available out there for a lot less than $300 a month. Start looking at historical or research sites related to your niche for some good sites that might drive traffic/sales. You're looking for authority or informational types of sites; sites like that can be seen as strong recommendations for your products and likely without the drawback of high prices or your competitors ads.
Works for me.
Why on earth anyone would pay for alink is beyond me, unless you are paying for "Advertising Space" which is 100% different, lets say on a radio station's website or something.
There are 100s of High PR sites (and I don't mean PR3 or 4) which give free back links all day long.
Don't pay for back links, unless you are paying for advertising space on a high traffic site, then you are paying for traffic not the link.
I have a ton of PR 3,4,5,6 sites, PR is a gimmick, period.
Me too. Being forced to read some of the stuff around here is beyond reason. Next thing we'll have an entire forum dedicated to cloaking.
>>>Why on earth anyone would pay for alink is beyond me.
Bought links=rankings in SE's=traffic=$$$. Just because some people don't like the equation doesn't invalidate it. Why people think that ranking in the search engines doesn't bring in traffic is beyond me.
I guess you missed my main point, why pay for a link on a site when there are PR 6-8 sites that will give you a link for free?
And not just one or two. I'm sure a lot of people on here make money selling links on their high PR sites, I'm just saying why pay for something that is freely available?
Because if person A has all the free links, and person B has all the free links + bought links, person B outranks A in the search engines. And is likely making enough money to more than cover the costs of the links. Meanwhile person A is complaining about how blackhat bought links are.
Plus, it's entirely possible that buying a dozen good paid links is faster and far cheaper in terms of work than finding a dozen good free links.
There's plenty of room for everyone. In this business you shouldn't do anything 100% of the time. Ignore paid links at your peril, it's an easy way to get a lot of top quality links fast; discounting that and thus the ranking boost is foolish. Just like buying paid links as your primary link method is foolish. If Google ever does actually figure out how to discount paid links you'll be cooked. A nice blend of both, some blogs and directories, lots of authorities, lots of links that your competitors have, lots of links that your competitors don't have, and your backlinks look about as natural as can be IMO.
I'm just saying in my experience the guy who competes with me and pays for backlinks is just wasting his money.
I have a local competitor who spends so much money on advertising and buying backlinks he dominated the local market in Google and Yahoo and MSN now he sits at the bottom of Google's front page while my new sites sit at the front. I also have front page national exposure as well, he is no where to be found.
And most "sales" on our sites aren't $2 ad clicks, they are $10-$30k projects, my main competitor hates me and sends me nasty emails all the time, about how his paid advertising should out rank all the free stuff I do. Oh well, I'll take the thousands I save each month on advertising and upgrade my equipment :)
To dominate most local markets including "Mortgage" (local mortgage not just the term mortgage) most people don't need to buy one backlink. I know I have taken mortgage companies and put them on the front page for city and state wide mortgage searches we didn't spend on penny on backlinks.
For a paragraph of text and one backlink for $300 you better be sitting on some damn good highly trusted site that gets a ton of traffic.
I thought this was a "White Hat" board, how can anyone condone "Paid Links"
Yes, we all want free PR5 /6 /7 inbound links, but some of those sites are waking up and learning they can monetize those sites by placing paid links on their sites.
If $300/month fits your budget, and you get the traffic and the SEO benefits, then do it.