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quality wide site text link

will i get sand boxed



1:43 am on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I got my website nov. o5 and only submited to directories (1st 2 months) and maybe two website. No text links.

In jan 07 decided to do some text links so went looking for QUALITY websites and found one great site that are exaclty the same theme as my website. I did a wide site text link for ie:"small fast expensive car" in january 07 on one of the sites PR3 when it had only 10 pages now it has 20 with my text link on every one.
a month ago i noticed out of nowhere im ranking middle of page 1 for that phrase and anything from page 1 to 9 for a combination of the phrases.

Then now(past 5 days) i found another same theme website Pr4 and did the same for wide site text link for "elegant fast expensive car"on 10 pages and my ranking improved 30% better for the combination almost instantly.

I got carried away and got another wide site text link from the same first website Pr3 for the same phrase "elegant fast expensive car" as a deep link.

It seemed too good to be true so i did some investigation and i learned that wide site text linking can get you sand boxed.

My question is do you think i will get sandboxed by google.And if so what do you suggest i do.


6:55 am on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If it is working, keep doing it. You can unsandbox yourself by getting lots of links from bloggers or by doing some link bait.


6:40 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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The sandbox can be a tricky thing. From my experience what you have done sounds like you are at risk. But.... If it's working then I would wipe the sweat off your brow and move forward. From now on really focus on quality links that are not site wide. If you are in this for the long term then play it safe and get good links from within your "hub". Just my two cents.


7:25 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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today my rank is even better its like its imroving every minute.Now im getting pages 1 to 5 on combination of keywords.
Im scared did not bet on such success. To be honest i have a bad feeling about this. When its too good to be true usualy it is.I feel i will get sand boxed.

So far as i understood i should not stop the site wide text link.just as long as i dont add any more. any more sugestions.

thanks for all responses


8:58 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Sometimes when you're optimizing a site, you'll do something and it will totally blow it up for you. Next thing you know, you're on page one for the results and everything is going awesome.
The only thing is that if it seems too easy, there's a good chance that it can be regarded as a faux pas and get you sandboxed. The upside is that doing one or two things like that doesn't run as much risk of getting you into any trouble, but pushing it can get you in trouble.

What I think you should do is leave that situation how it is and take advantage of where you're at now. Try to make youself as useful to visitors as you can and keep your content fresh. That's the best way to optimize you site right there.

No offense intended by this, I'm speaking generally and not about you specifically, but if your site's lame, then you really don't deserve page one rankings anyway.

Seize this opportunity and start keeping some good, fresh content on there, and you have a good chance of maintaining if not increasing your rankings.


9:53 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My wesite offers something different and unique in my field and the content is always original.But i will follow your advice and add even more content.


4:39 pm on Mar 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As long as you've got something worth seeing on there. You say that you've got something unique to your niche and keep fresh content on there, then that's the best thing you can do.
Then, of course, there's the marketing side that goes hand-in-hand with the optimization.
Throw yourself into the giant social playgrounds that are the blogosphere and forums - things like that and start networking, then you can maybe get other people to do all of the linking for you.
Look up linkbaiting and things like that.
I hope that some of what I've said has been helpful and wish you success with your site.


3:16 am on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks flak47, My ranking is steady now,but im still edgy. I will get more information on linkbaits its a new concept for me. I decided to cap one of the sitewide text links so that when the website grows the number of text links stays the same. Also im thinking of using a different (noncompetitive)text links for each page to replace the existing sitewide repetitive link on the same website and place them in between sentanced. Do you recomend such actions.


11:54 am on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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*If it is working, keep doing it. You can unsandbox yourself by getting lots of links from bloggers or by doing some link bait.*

IMO that must be the most reckless piece of advice from a Senior Member I can remember reading here...


7:24 am on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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glengara, do you know the threshold of links? I mess about with these things. Sometimes I get a lot of links and it works no probs. Sometimes if the domain is too new I get a lot of links and it does not rank.

Neverthelees later on once I have been a bit more cautious on the same domain it ranks later on. Once it has the trust then I can blast it into the SERPS again.

So this is balanced advice that I can back up with experience.

[edited by: Crush at 7:33 am (utc) on Mar. 14, 2007]


2:55 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think that the "if it works, keep doing it" idea is only wreckless when you consider that you're talking to somebody who might not have the ability or resources just yet to get a lot of links from bloggers and things like that to unsandbox themselves.
I could see how a seasoned SEO could view it like that, but it's kind of scary to somebody new to the whole deal.

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