deleted and expired domains

do both expired and deleted domains loose theier value

[mariolosek]

Hello,

I red many post on the forum regarding deleted and expired domain names. Some of peaople use word "expired" for actually "deleted "domain names. I know that deleted domain names loose their PR and all value of backlinks. What about expired domain names. If I user backorder services of SnapNames, GoDaddy or other ones am I able to catch domain name, which did not loos its value yet?

Thank you in advance for explanation.

[specter]

Well,There is a lag time during wich the domain is still active altough it is expired:that to allow the "absentminded" webmasters to renew it just without loosing any benefit.In this time,also,I think (but no sure)the domain is not available but still "busy".
So,In my opinion,you cannot buy these domains till they are definitively deleted and so again available for the public.

[mariolosek]

I heard that some of people use SnapNames or other auctions to catch domain names. Do not have they domain names, which they catch any value? How does it work? I believe there is some advantage of this backordering if so many webasters do it?

Thanks for reply

[Nuttakorn]

Does Google count the expired domain and just renewed domain as new domain because Google is Domain Registrar , they can access those data in real time and all record? If that, Is the expired-domain would be less value and seems like the new domain and stuck in the sandbox?

[Webwork]

Some people target domain names that have a number of existing links, simple because links = traffic. There is significant competition and therefore price pressure for domains in this category.

A bazillion junk links, from blogs, guestbooks, etc. is one version of links.

A dozen links - or even 1 - from a major government site is another version.

I stumbled across a domain or two in my day, unintentionally, that expired and that had some interesting links. A nice incidental benefit.

Forget the links game unless you are prepared to pay handsomely. Like I said: It's not my game but I've seen it played, over and over, and the bids can sometimes blow you away. It's simple: Traffic = money. You can pay by the click or you can pay for an expired domain with a decent link network, where the traffic will likely slowly erode. The math is not for amateurs. Read a great deal before sitting down at the gaming table.

[mariolosek]

Thank you for an explanation. I see that the issue is about the traffiac, not about the links. I thought that they try to get those domains for links and better results in search engines.

Thank you!

[Bennie]

I thought that they try to get those domains for links and better results in search engines.

Works for Yahoo and MSN depending upon the link popularity of the site and how 'ontopic' the links are. With that said I have seen totally unrelated content rank very well (I can only assume not all associations have been mapped at G and hardly at MSN or Y!). If you do it right your links will count in Google as well (but I'm not telling how ;-)

[edited by: Bennie at 4:32 am (utc) on July 26, 2006]