Passing PR and 301

Does work using a 301 to pass PR to a new page?

[silverbytes]

I changed document name of my PR3 page.
Now my old page PR3 is PR0 and is there a 301 poiting to my "new" page (the old one with new name)
Will the 301 pass the full old PR to my new one?
What happens with links pointing to old url?

[MstrMnd]

Please, what does PR3 mean? I think I am doing the same as you and will understand other's replies if I understand your q.

[silverbytes]

Page Rank. Search Google for a detailed explanation, it's a value Google gives sites measuring popularity. Not exactly that but you've got an idea of what PR is

[mosaic service]

I think Google will pass your old PR to the new page.

All the links on the old page will be live in a sense that when clicking on the link will send you to old page which will use 301 redirect to direct to your new page.

[benni_203]

I had this issue with one of my little projects. Yes, Google passes the Pagerank. There can a delay for of up to a couple of weeks. Still, bear in mind that a Pagerank is for single pages and not for the whole domain. That means that your index.html could have PR5 while a subsite has only PR3.

Therefore I did an individual 301 in my .htaccess for every single page such as:

redirect 301 index.html [newdomain...]
redirect 301 /directory/page.html [newdomain...]

and so on.

Once implemented you can test it by typing in the old url for each side and see if you land on the respective new site.

Regards,
Benni

[Tigrou]

It doesn't always work. Had a PR6 homepage site, redirected it to a new site and 6 months later I still don't see an effect.

The "new" site has a PR2 now, but that's because of other links.

More points :
- the new site only has 10 pages so the PR of the old site hasn't been dilluted
- the themes of the two sites were fairly close so no filter that should have cut out the usefulness of those links
- the old site was a 3rd level domain at an ISP and the lack of PR xfer likely due to that. (my assumption)

I've tried this with a few other sites and run into the same problem.

[JWalters]

Hello,

A 301 redirect would not give the old page rank to the new page.

However, a 301 redirect would take the page rank of the destination website, and give it to your page with the 301 redirect.

I did a little test with the 301 redirect and now I have a page rank 10 website :=)

[Milamber]

I did a little test with the 301 redirect and now I have a page rank 10 website :=)

Really? Would you mind PMing me the url?

[leadegroot]

I think JWalters might be thinking of a 302 theft of site?
Bad JWalters, Bad!

[martinibuster]

>>>now I have a page rank 10 website...
That claim is pretty suspect.

If you 301 from your site to another site, you are simply telling the search engines that your page is no longer there, and to go to the other site, and YOUR pr is transferred over to the target website.

[edited by: martinibuster at 4:41 pm (utc) on April 30, 2005]

[Craig_F]

301 permanent will transfer the page rank, I've done it many times. If you want it to be as solid as possible though, I'd follow up and get any incoming links changed to the new page.

[silverbytes]

How long may that take?

[Milamber]

I think it takes around nine weeks, not exactly sure.

[Craig_F]

I don't know really. I don't think it ever took 9 weeks though :) I just don't watch this stuff that closely, I triple check things like this, then just forget them and move on.

[grandpa]

I triple check things like this, then just forget them and move on.

There's the best advice on the topic silverbytes. I usually only double check mine, then move on to make sure all the in-site links are updated to the new page name. Then go about establishing new link partners with the new page names.

A couple of years ago I changed page names site wide. The PR was passed on to the new pages without a problem. How long did that take, you ask? As long as it took. Seems like it was a matter of several weeks. Now I'm in the process or renaming some of those pages again - to something more meaningful :) But I'm only doing a few pages at a time so the whole site won't look gray-barred or 0 PR all at the same time.

[joeduck]

RE: passing PR with 301s

Have people successfully passed PR to a new domain using 301s? We are trying this but not clear if it's going work.