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Link from scraper's directories

not that bad....

         

Algebrator

5:03 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I haven't done a search such as
"add url" keyword
for a while.
I just did and as you may imagine the top serps were filled with scraped versions of dmoz and such. My initial reaction was to ignore them, but then, upon closer look, I realized that this may be unwise. Here are my reasons why you should actually get listed in some of these:
1. For whatever reason they ARE in top serps. Some have a PR 4 or 5.
2. While they may have started as (partial or full) dmoz copies, by virtue of having add url form and and having decent rankings, they have acquired a number of new listings, making them a de facto directory and not a copy of one
3. I particularly like ones that started as partial dmoz copies (all categories copied, but not all entires). In one case, in my own category - there were only 4 links listed (as opposed to 50 in dmoz), and the category had PR4 (as opposed to domoz's category - PR3)
4. They will list my new PR0 site with no problem

Granted, there is a massive amount of junk out there - but not all of it is

martinibuster

5:55 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Scraper page as a form of link development? Here is a valid reason why you may NOT want to opt for that.

Thousands of websites, all with a paragraph here and a paragraph there stolen from your website. Over the course of time, your website will be dissected into thousands of different pieces. As you update your pages, say you freshen up an aff banner or rotate some product images, then those thousands of other pages may be seen as older than your original page.

Now G,Y,M may see your website as an amalgamation of other websites, or at the very least, devalue your content, and send you less traffic.

Are you really that confident in GYM to understand what is and is not original content?

Are you willing to put your website on the roulette table of theories and guesses and gamble with your traffic (and livelihood)? Does that make any sense?

Algebrator

6:57 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MartiniBuster,

I want to make sure you understood me correctly - these "scraper" sites scrape directories like dmoz - each listed site is not scraped; it simply has the title and short dmoz-like description (some of those are replaced with google result type descriptions - but it amounts to the same thing).
Now if that is the case, why am at (greater than normal) danger of being scraped? Because the scraper who originally scraped dmoz will at some point also scrape its own (later added) links? Or because somebody else will scrape the scraper?
I would appreciate if you could explain your reasoning a little bit
Thanks

martinibuster

7:10 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ah,
Well, I'm not sure that the term scraper is the right word for those. Isn't it closer to say it's a dmoz mirror? Some people take the data and mix adsense with it, others use it as backfill for incomplete directories, and others present it as a service for their readers. If you take the free dmoz dump and use it any which way, is that a scrape?

hehe. Maybe it's time for a proper definition of what a scrape is.

In any case, I don't think it's harmful. That's part of the benefit of a dmoz listing, as well as a Yahoo directory listing.