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To make it clearer, say you have a site with 400 link exchanges completed. You then remove all of the 400 outbounds from your site leaving you with only 400 one-way links.
BTW, i'm not suggesting this is new or innovative thinking at all; please don't everyone go and do this! I know you'll lose links from recip checkers, etc, etc.
The reason for this is not to be cunning or to renege on deals made previously at other webmasters' expenses; it's simply because a client that just bought someone's website wants all the links removed from that domain to pursue another strategy.
We've never done this before as usually this would be incendiary and against our normal practices (if under almost any other circumstances). So, I'm wondering if anyone has seen improvement in rankings due to removing them or if they've seen decreased rankings.
Of course these things are subjective when you consider whether or not they are links to good/bad neighborhoods, relevant, etc... but i'm just trying to get a consensus if i'm lucky enough to get a few responses. Any info to the regard of this last paragraph would be appreciated also.
What other strategy are you going to follow? Purchase incoming, one-way links?
BTW, its pretty easy to remove a page/s.
2) At the least, you would need to email all the webmasters whos links you are going to remove.
3) What other strategy are you going to follow? Purchase incoming, one-way links?
4) BTW, its pretty easy to remove a page/s.
</nzmatt>
1) "Morally", no, not if the links are garbage. You are buying an investment - one which you should do whatever necessary to protect.
2) Most email addresses are not available in this case.
3)There's plenty, we're not worried about nor are we seeking discussion on this.
4) Of course. The questions is what are the effects (if anyone has experienced this).
Thanks for your input though.
Why not simply work on more inbound links and be happy to know that you already have a fair amount of reciprocals ;-)
That is my methods and it has worked very nicely ;-)
I do one way links, reciprocal links and work on creating content that people link to. Those that think reciprocal links are dead are wrong.
Reciprocal links are miss understood and often webmasters try to cheat each other that makes many "trades" not really pay off.
Cheers,
2) Most email addresses are not available in this case.
3)There's plenty, we're not worried about nor are we seeking discussion on this.
4) Of course. The questions is what are the effects (if anyone has experienced this).
Thanks for your input though.
</nuevojefe>
Jeeeezzz....sorry for speaking!
1) You are buying a trading entity which has existing agreements (reciprocal link) and it is immoral to take them off without giving the other party notice and empowering them to do the same. I'm glad I will never have to do business with you!
2) Most email addresses are available if you follow the link and find the contact us page on that site!
3)"...wants all the links removed from that domain to pursue another strategy" :- This suggested to me that you were following another links strategy. My apologies if you are not seeking discussion on this...
4) If you are talking about Google rankings (as aposed to engines which do not have link structure as a factor in their algos) where incoming links have, for the last year or so, been considered a positive influence on rankings the answer is likely the page rank will increase as you will have cut off out-bounds.
Sorry I haven’t experienced doing this, and I never will as it is unscrupulous. Go for it - I hope you get lots of webmaster emails which let you know how they feel about it from their side.
Where is the love?
Anyone have any experience as to what the current results have been if all the reciprocal link directory (or whatever format you used) pages are removed at once?
Sort of, this is a little like what happens when you move a site entirely from one address to another and change all the pages on the former site to "this site has moved". What happens is that the PR and ranking takes a surprisingly long time to slip away, especially if the category isn't competitive or if it's listed by DMOZ (in which case the DMOZ clones never seem to update). You can expect a gradual loss of links, but it may not be much more than the link rot that most sites experience anyway. I still have a PR 5 (but no decent ranking or traffic) on a site that I pointed to another address over a year ago.
Anyone have any experience as to what the current results have been if all the reciprocal link directory (or whatever format you used) pages are removed at once?
Yes, I outsourced link development to a company before I started doing it in house. When I analyzed the 1200 links that they put on these links pages, a large % where 404's/partners who did not reciprocate.
Disgusted with what I found,I redeveloped the site, dropped all the link pages, did not notify anyone. Nothing really happened to the sites rankings, it has been hovering in the same positions 2-4 for the past 4 years. All rankings remained constant.
When I analyzed the 1200 links that they put on these links pages, a large % where 404's/partners who did not reciprocate.Disgusted with what I found,I redeveloped the site, dropped all the link pages, did not notify anyone.
Link development involves a considerable amount of link maintenance, so this doesn't surprise me. My guess is that links have a half-life of 1 year on average.
When I analyzed the 1200 links that they put on these links pages, a large % where 404's/partners who did not reciprocate.
Disgusted with what I found,I redeveloped the site, dropped all the link pages, did not notify anyone.
I guess 'what goes around comes around' ;)
1) You are buying a trading entity which has existing agreements (reciprocal link) and it is immoral to take them off without giving the other party notice and empowering them to do the same. I'm glad I will never have to do business with you!
2) Most email addresses are available if you follow the link and find the contact us page on that site!
3)"...wants all the links removed from that domain to pursue another strategy" :- This suggested to me that you were following another links strategy. My apologies if you are not seeking discussion on this...
4) If you are talking about Google rankings (as aposed to engines which do not have link structure as a factor in their algos) where incoming links have, for the last year or so, been considered a positive influence on rankings the answer is likely the page rank will increase as you will have cut off out-bounds.
Sorry I haven’t experienced doing this, and I never will as it is unscrupulous. Go for it - I hope you get lots of webmaster emails which let you know how they feel about it from their side.
Where is the love?
</nzmatt>
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A) Don't be, I just was looking for a certain targeted response.
1) They're not buying a reciprocal link directory, they're buying a site to develop large amounts of content. This site may have had a section devoted to link trading but no contracts were signed as to the length or terms of the agreement. Further, it should be assumed that a responsibility (unfortunately of course... but fortunately we have automated checkers ourselves) of the link development team for any given website is going to be staying on top of who is or is not maintaining their reciprocal links.
If you have more than a few sites and you exchange links unfortunately you probably have done business with us :-)
2) Sure, what if the figure I used originally was merely a placeholder but the links traded are actually in the 10,000 - 12,000 range.
Even at the lower end and assuming it takes 2 minutes to find a working email address and add them to the db of ones to mail that would take 333 full 24 hour days to complete the task. Somehow I don't think I we'll be setting up an offshore outsourcing operation for this task alone.
3) No problem, just didn't want this going off in some random direction. Many of the latest posts have been great and pretty close to what I was looking for.
4) Perhaps you meant the PageRank could be used more wisely by being distributed in greater part to the sub-pages of the site? Otherwise, no it would not increase the PageRank. PageRank could only be increased with the addition of more inbound links or the existing ones as a whole gaining more PageRank and thus passing on more to the site in question.
It's all around, can't you feel it?
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Thanks Rosalind.
Jaffstar, awesome, very helpful. About how long ago did you remove this directory?
Also, did you notice any more or less overall traffic to the site (if less do you assume it was as a result of any random searches that ranked your links pages well?)?
Jaffstar, awesome, very helpful. About how long ago did you remove this directory?Also, did you notice any more or less overall traffic to the site (if less do you assume it was as a result of any random searches that ranked your links pages well?)?
My rankings remained constant, But 1200 do contain tons of unique content via urls/descriptions, by taking down these pages, lots of that traffic disappeared.
I removed the directory exactly 1 year ago.
Anyone with a similar experience more recently?
