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nitin24dec

11:15 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi all,
I remember, I read of a website/software (which ofcourse was paid) who had a list of websites on each business category with website's title , description, home page PR, LInk page PR and webmasters email IDs etc. .

These websites are the ones who are interested in link exchange. This is similar to Linkpartners but these guys claimed to have codes already found for us. So I may just pick the codes from there for my related wensites, and then can write to all those webmasters as they provide email ID as well. Does anybody elso also read about this software..Can somebody advice?

Thanks in advance...

Macro

12:49 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I find it amazing that you believe this. :)

Webmasters of high PR sites get large volumes of link request emails and those emails are now considered a nuisance. Some even complain that they are SPAM.

Think about it. If such a list exists (of high PR webmasters who want more link exchanging) don't you think those webmasters would be inundated with requests? Also, why would they want to dilute their PR? It would be in their interest to give you links from a page that's got a robots block, shroud the link in js/cgi exit script... or some other device. I know at least one high PR directory that uses that tactic. So their PR will keep going up....

(Now over to someone else who'll tell you why PR doesn't matter :))

chrisnrae

6:56 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Now over to someone else who'll tell you why PR doesn't matter"

Macro is right, toolbar PR does not matter. It is broken/inaccurate. PR is still a factor, but we no longer are being shown real site PR within the toolbar. At this point, TBPR is simply a distraction to keep webmasters who refuse to accept change busy.

graywolf

12:32 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sure they exist but they are in the PR 4 -6 range don't know if you consider that high or not. You can do just as well trolling thru the link exchange directories and doing your own filtering for quality.

Yes TBPR is totaly out of whack and could almost be considered disinformation at this point.

stef25

3:39 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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just when i get decent PR i hear its completely out of whack. great!

but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out really ...

xxxxxpp

7:51 am on Oct 18, 2004 (gmt 0)



what happened to PR? I got low PR so it doesn't really matters to me, but I'm curious anyway.

anallawalla

8:58 am on Oct 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google TBPR has some meaning for old, popular sites, e.g. adobe.com, microsoft.com, but for newish sites, it has litle or no bearing on how high your site will rank in a serp. Just check the apparent TBPR for the top 5 in any serp and you will see no particular pattern in those values.

nakulgoyal

5:01 am on Nov 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Dude, it will be another spam. I feel it's better off to contact people using the contact forms for link exchange if they specifically mention. And place a link to them before you contact. Lots of spam comes in already.....!

jaffstar

9:10 am on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The key is quality not quantity, do it by hand, you will get better results and its a longterm solution.

webnerd

9:50 am on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The key is quality not quantity, do it by hand, you will get better results and its a longterm solution.

When I explore the back links to high rank pr sites with pr ranks of 7 or 8 (to me that is high) I find that they have hundreds or even thousands of low ranking pr sites linking to them. I think quantity of links does matter.

My question is how many pr4s equals a pr5 for instance?

I agree links from sites with related subject as your own have a greater effort therefore doing things by hand is probably better .
Maybe that is what you meant by quality.
I think quantity of links is very important also.

jaffstar

10:46 am on Nov 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In the last few years the strategy was to get as many links as humanly possible from wherever you could.

The PageRank scale of 1 to 10 on Google bar is not linier but an exponential/logarithmic one. This means that PR5 is 8 times more in value than PR4. As such, a PR8 website has a value 4000 times more than a PR4 website.

So, if you get a Pr8 , you dont need to go getting 4000 links. Hence, quality over quanity.

Don't be so quick to follow someone else, blind following the blind.

webnerd

3:53 am on Nov 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The PageRank scale of 1 to 10 on Google bar is not linier but an exponential/logarithmic one. This means that PR5 is 8 times more in value than PR4. As such, a PR8 website has a value 4000 times more than a PR4 website.

Thank you jaffstar I have been trying to get a answer for N for awhile now and no one ever answered until now.
Then pr(x+1) = N(pr(x)where N=8.
I thought it may be approx = to 10.
Then 32000 pr3 = 1 pr8
Thats what you meant by quality.
Thanks I finally got an answer.
:)

dracul

7:09 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, you got me there. I guess thats a good example of keyword relevance on the inbounds. Very interesting. How about a pr9 with less than 4000 inbounds or am I pushing it?

jaffstar

9:36 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can find it, too much work to do though.

Look on Google's site, the minute it gives off a link from a PR10/9 .....

Macro

9:48 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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jaffstar, sorry, but your example has at least 19,000 links. Perhaps you used Google's "link:" feature which is known to be inaccurate. Try Yahoo's.

And, if you guys really want a PR9 page, here's one: [toolbar.google.com...] . I don't know about "less than 4000". Yahoo says it has "less than 400" links! Google says it's a PR9 with no incoming links. Howzzat?

But I agree quality is what matters. That's why I'll be willing to give up ALL my other links if Google will do a home page to home page link exchange with me. Googleguy, you around? :)

stef24

10:21 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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for what its worth, i have a PR5 with 6 incoming links, according to google. in reality there are about 12 incoming links

plus a few dozen that i place in my signature on relevant forum discussions where possible. (not WebmasterWorld)

jaffstar

11:13 am on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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jaffstar, sorry, but your example has at least 19,000 links. Perhaps you used Google's "link:" feature which is known to be inaccurate. Try Yahoo's.

True, was applying it to Google,although you are correct, Google's link reporting/filtering is not the most accurate. I could of compared 7 engines, removed duplicates etc.

Was just trying to give an example.

A also found a PR8 site with a single link from a PR4 directory, cant explain that one either, and yes I did check Yahoo.

Macro

12:30 pm on Nov 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I could of compared 7 engines, removed duplicates etc.

Hey, no need for the sarcasm.

Was just trying to give an example.

Fair enough. That example just happened to be not.