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I'm aware that if a site has almost all of its anchor text being very identical, google may trigger a penalty since it looks unnatural.
When you request a link to your site with anchor text, what % do you request with the exact phrase you want?
I.E.
50% the exact keyword phrase you are targeting
25% Yoursite.com - keyword phrase
25% Keyword phrase by yoursite.com blah blah
Do you take into account that a lot of sites probably disregard your anchor text request and just link to your site URL / site name?
Any insight would be helpful.
-Neil
Well, not sure it is 'exactly' what you want but look at this:
[webmasterworld.com...]
Actually little under 9% would be around in the middle between 8.5% and 8.9% from previous investigation.
G.
You could trip the filter that says that on average some anchor text will be identical. If every anchor text is different it looks like you've gone Black Hat. ;)
Do you take into account that a lot of sites probably disregard your anchor text request and just link to your site URL / site name?
Yes... I look at the anchor text that other links on the linking site have gotten and make a guess about what kind of anchor text I might get.
I have doubts on a filter here. I've been following one in my industry, although it's mainly a consumer resources site,yet the anchor text is the same four word phrase over and over again. The site ranks a steady #4 in google and rarely moves. Steady at #3 in Yahoo and MSN--been there for a few years.
as far as I can see, every single one has used the 2 word title as the anchor.
Still on first page of G, Yahoo etc.
If you own wigets.com, and sites link to widgets.com cause its a good site, there is a good chance the site will rank well for "widgets", why would google ban this site ranking well?
I tend to regularly use on of the 8 bigger phrases and mix an match derivations (or ocassionally lack thereof) and sometimes add pricing details - This creates for a huge amount of variation while roughly targeting each of our two word phrases and (largly incedentally) landing important three word ones.
It works for us in the sense that we are placed relativly well across the board which is very unique in our market.
Very nice post, Nalin. I practice quite similar to yours and the results are more or less fantastic.
Instead of worrying about the identical anchor texts penalties, I think it would be more fruitful in long term if you concentrate more on longer keyword phrases, similar to message #10.
It makes sense, it's better for targetting deeper more focused pages and it develops a certain topology for which your site *seems* to belong to.
Also, this should help you avoid any anchor text filter perceived or otherwise.
And, a further comment about the possible exact anchor text penalty...
Such a penalty was widely reported, but what was not reported was the nature of the sites and the source of their inbound links.
Imagine that you send out link requests and get inbounds on, say, ten of them. What's the likelihood that the anchor text on these ten links is going to be identical? Not very high, I would guess.
So, sites that had hundreds of identical inbounds might have had a measure of control over the anchor text that those of us who hunt for links might not have had. Such control suggests that other relationships among the sites might also have been noticeable... like linking patterns and server IPs, eg... and those relationships might have hurt rankings more than similarities in anchor text. But maybe anchor text is what was reported at the time. Only guessing, but this has got to be true in a large number of the cases....
