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Buying 50 urls and then linking

         

Jon12345

6:53 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You have target site mywidget.com. It has no links so you set up 50 other domains. They all link to mywidget.com.

You do the same for 10 other websites you own.

Is this a more cost effective way of promoting your sites? Just seems like you have more control.

Jon

jk3210

7:32 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Modern science does not have the ability to measure how fast Google will stomp on that set-up.

victor

7:42 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It depends on where and how you want to promote your sites.

As jk3210 hints, it is not a good approach -- unless you don't want to be listed in Google. But, even then, it is easier to ban googlebot that attempting to trigger spam filters.

It is a good approach if you want a lot of websites that will be hard to find via traditional routes (such as SEs). Useful if you have an idea for a sort of online treasure-hunt adventure game.

Jon12345

7:47 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't see why this should not work. What is the difference between this setup and having other sites linking to you?

trillianjedi

8:16 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Are you really saying that you think it'll be easier? It just creates 50 more sites that you have to ask people to link to, and 50 more sites that you have to fill with content in order to get people to link to.....

If you're really having trouble getting sites to link to you, then there's something dreadfully wrong with your content.

If you're an online widget store, then start up a high content widget information site, SEO that to do well in the engines and use it to drive the traffic.

It's a lot easier getting people to link to informational sites. But you still have to do it properly and make it something worth linking to.

TJ

victor

8:44 pm on Nov 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't see why this should not work. What is the difference between this setup and having other sites linking to you?

In the asked-about up you are linking to yourself. It's a big difference and Google warns you off link farms and other such artificial rank boosters, eg:
[google.com...]

Linking to yourself is like having sex with yourself. You may have more control, but you are missing out on many of the benefits.

Jon12345

12:29 am on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been figuring that if you created 50 sites, you leverage the time spent creating these sites if you have multiple sites yourself. The reasoning behind it is that you have economies of scale in that once the sites are created, you can link them to any number of sites you may have. In the example I gave, that would be 10 sites. If you created site 11, you can get 50 links almost instantaneously.

1milehgh80210

12:42 am on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Easier to just crank out 1000's of garbage pages on the same site -linking back to index.htm. Apparently google counts these links and doesnt have a problem with them...(

victor

7:28 am on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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once the sites are created, you can link them to any number of sites you may have.

But the problem is that you have an isolated knot of sites all of which point only to themselves, and none of them (or very few) have any incoming links from elsewhere on the web.

Search engines are wise to that -- they'll identify and cut out the whole knot. You may be worse off than you were before.

If you can overwhelm their closed-set detection (maybe with several thousand sites) it might work. But remember, they also look for duplicate content, so make sure all sites have something valuable on them, and are more than just a single page, and have no duplicated content.

Then the chances are that a competitor will complain. So make sure they have no reason to complain. All several thousand sites should offer a different and valuable service to users -- the interconnection to promote the original site should be only a side effect.

richardb

7:55 am on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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LOL Victor

Linking to yourself is like having sex with yourself. You may have more control, but you are missing out on many of the benefits.

On the other hand - with the former one meets a nicer type of person.

trillianjedi

8:53 am on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you created site 11, you can get 50 links almost instantaneously.

But those 50 links are not worth anything, as those 50 sites themselves need some inbound links, content etc for google to see the significance.

TJ

rogerd

2:20 pm on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Amplifying what trillianjedi said, Jon12345, for this strategy to work you'd have to put in a lot of work. To begin with, you'd need to mask the WHOIS info for the 50 domains and make sure they all appeared to be unrelated. Then, you'd have to create 50 sites worth of unique content and try to get links from unrelated sites for the 50 sites.

Of course, if you do all this, you'll have created something of value - if you make your original site the top of a pyramid or otherwise link to it from these sites, it will surely get a boost. Plus, this network of sites will be able to promote other sites you may be involved with. Nevertheless, if your main objective is to boost links to the original site, an aggressive link-building campaign will take a lot less effort.

graywolf

8:19 pm on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you're an online widget store, then start up a high content widget information site, SEO that to do well in the engines and use it to drive the traffic.

Since you'll never learn unless you ask, is it better to direct the traffic off with advertising or links that flow through the copy, or is either approach valid.

Craig_F

8:45 pm on Nov 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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better to direct the traffic off with advertising or links that flow through the copy, or is either approach valid.

Either approach would be valid, however one may work much better than the other depending on the type of site/audience/set up.

mrwhy2k

10:26 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are many drug and casino affiliates who use this tactic and it works quite well.

HOWEVER, they do not last that long either. Each site has duplicate content, spammy anchor text, and no real substance.

If you can create a good template, and generate 15 - 20 pages of real content, then you could make this work. You also need to make sure each site gets some incoming links from somewhere. It will do you no good if you have 50 PR0 sites pointing to your main site. I suggest thinking about your link matrix too... if you do it right, this is much easier than you think.

Once you have a good template set up, each site should not take you more than a few hours to complete.

I say give it a shot, after all, "an incoming link will never hurt you." (just don't link back).

Good Luck ;+)

trillianjedi

10:47 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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better to direct the traffic off with advertising or links that flow through the copy, or is either approach valid.

I agree with Craig - either approach will work, but I personally favour the links flowing through copy approach for longevity and good, natural, anchor text.

TJ

martinibuster

11:31 pm on Nov 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You want to promote one site, so you build 50 sites and promote all 50 sites so you can have 50 links pointing into it?

It's easier to beg and buy your way to 50 links.

But that's just me. Creating 50 websites in a hurry means it's going to cut into my happy hour...

nakulgoyal

6:30 am on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You also need to make sure all50 sites have unique content. I feel Search Engines are made to LOVE Content...or we should say Unique Conetnt.

If you can do that, and you promote all 50 of your websites, it becomes a network of websites and don't do any spamming at all and you end up promoting all 50 and not 1 or 2....and it may not be bad. Just that you are an aoner of 50 online businesses and not 1. :-)

I know a lot of people who do this.

progex

5:09 pm on Jan 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If going this route in developing 50 relevant websites that link to your chosen website, should the 50 websites have their each unique IP?