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Is there a more time efficient way of doing this then the SERP's so that I'm visiting ONLY relevant sites with a home page PR of 5 (for example)?
If I search on widgets + "exchange links" I get a wide variety of PR. Very time consuming to visit unqualified (PR too low) sites looking for the right mix. Any suggestions?
It has happened that a site and any site associated with a program like this has lost PR because of it.
be careful if you find one...
currently, you have to keep doin it the hard way... ah ya appreciate the results so much better anyway.
Why would you want to exchange links with sites, which are ranked well “for your keywords”? Aren’t they your direct competitors? And why do you think that they are willing to share their traffic with you?
I found that through the Google Directory you can target industries, which are relatively close (but not in direct competition) to yours and are presented with the higher PR sites at the top of the list.
I also would like to comment on your “I only exchange links with real quality sites” statement.
First, some of our fellow colleagues probably just started their business (how many rejections have you received when you started just because of PR0). Unless the site is penalised, purely designed or has bad content, I’d give it a go and see what’ll happen with its performance in the foreseeable future.
Second, PR is not the only issue. Quite often sites with lower PR can generate much more targeted traffic to your site, depending on the nature of your business and the industry.
Good linking.
PROsha
By quality sites I meant exactly that, no PR involved. I will also gladly link to a PR0 if the content is high quality for my visitors.
First, some of our fellow colleagues probably just started their business (how many rejections have you received when you started just because of PR0). Unless the site is penalised, purely designed or has bad content, I’d give it a go and see what’ll happen with its performance in the foreseeable future.
Bravo! :) we need more people like you. Not many people understand this. And this is the ultimate long term strategy you can think of. When people say it's difficult to get links from PR 4 pages they forget that most of the links on that PR 4 page might have been put up when it was a PR 0 ;). And good sites always bring in their share of traffic.Especially if it is a special niche segment site you have.
SN
*End of rant*
Dave.
I can certainly understand how you feel (and much depends on the quality of the sites in question) but keep in mind not every webmaster has your implied level of luxury.
Should they sit around and wait for links, worried about upsetting a sensitive webmaster, and risk failure?
Or should they request links, taking into account the human nature of most webmasters, and guarantee success?
Having a mix of old and new sites, I can see how new webmasters could complain about "lazy" established webmasters on their high horses who have stopped adding new links.
But finger pointing and ranting misses the point. You see a lot of these techniques because they are necessary and they work. And if human nature changes overnight, you will no doubt see a shift in techniques.
No worries mate. Just relax.
If you think that everyone requesting a link is a link farmer, you most likely had some bad experience. We are not all like that. Some of us are good guys trying hard to build our link popularity. And, believe it or not, some of us have great sites.
I see no problems in putting a link to my site prior I request a reciprocal link. I think it’s ethical. And I have no problem to send a polite reminder a couple of weeks later. I expect that I deal with normal people who would act adequately. After all, we all in the same boat and we all appreciate the value of incoming links. I should say “good quality, relevant, etc. links”.
However, there are folks who don’t understand that quality is more important than quantity and there are some who just run link farms. You never know till you visit their sites.
With newbies, it’s simple. Just send them e-mail with the link to a good article or a web site about linking popularity. They will very much appreciate it.
For link farmers I have very straightforward linking policy saying that if the web site requesting a reciprocal link doesn’t match all the criteria, the enquiry will be ignored. As simple as that.
I mentioned in my previous post, that we all had started once upon a time and without great support from more experienced people our life could be much harder. This forum is just about that.
So let’s exchange links.
PROsha.
Dave.
When you get one, do you give them any credit for knowing anything? ususally not!
then why do you not give them references to what you are intending?
I know this sounds strange, but give them a link in your email to the best post on this site for why you want to link to them, or from any other site with credibility. YOU DON'T HAVE CREDIBILITY ON YOUR OWN. You MUST have credibility to get links from some sites. They don't know you or know what you know. Give them some credible resources to look at explaining what you want to accomplish. This gives the other person at least some idea you know what your talking about. Forget trying to sell them on it, they have made a descition of 'no' regardless of what you say unless you can give them ANY valid resource outside of yourself.
quit banging your head against the wall, get the door open before you charge ahead...!
