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natim

11:00 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone tried this new product from Macromedia. As someone who is artistically challenged it has been a great help to me. My webmaster is very happy that I don't have to bug him for text changes, titles or descriptions.

As someone who literally has no time to learn the program they really want to Dreamweaver, this has been a huge success for me.

Any input would be appreciated.

Marcia

3:41 am on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Does this program work well without using the latest version of Dreamweaver? And does anyone using it have to also have DW installed, like clients to might want to make additions to their own sites - either adding to existing pages or adding pages on their own?

tedster

7:38 am on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm using it with some clients who only want to update calendar entries and timely notices. Contribute can be a stand-alone app. It doesn't even need DreamWeaver at all - but when it is used with Dreamweaver, the site admin has more control in defining editable regions. Actually, I think all you probably need to do is insert the DW editable region codes - you may not even need to use the program. You sure don't need the latest version.

You can also establish templates that your clients can use to create new pages. Of course, nothing can force them to be kind to the site's Information Architecture ;)

Contribute is a slow, clunky editor -- but then again, it's designed for those totally ignorant of HTML and has many safeguards built in, including a programmable number of roll-backs.

The two secretaries I set up with it are delighted, and their boss's website gets updated a lot faster than when I had to be in the loop. And a friend of mine did a university site and trained 20 department members to use Contribute. And he's now free of the niggling details.

I'm liking it for making clients more self-sufficient, but definitely will NOT be using it for my own editing purposes.

[edited by: tedster at 7:47 am (utc) on Oct. 27, 2003]

Marcia

7:42 am on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I never had a need to upgrade from DW2 but it may be good to move up to the newest to use with Contribute if it'll fill the bill. Having non-editable areas is really a good safeguard.

Can the clients set up and add new pages with a set layout and format and photos included? That's really the important part.

tedster

7:46 am on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes -- looks like I was adding that kind of info to my first reply while you were posting.

To expand a bit more, you can tell the program to be hands off images or allow images to be changed. You can also set up different team members with different privileges and issue each one a "key" that is appropriate for their abilities or reponsibilities.

It could be better, but it does pretty nicely as it is, for what it is.

natim

2:16 am on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Tedster- I am one of those ignorant about html but I know where to find the pros that do. Rather than have to bother them with changes to text, title and descriptions Contribute fits the bill for me. I am one of those artistically challenged people but I do like to have a hand in my sites.

Marsha- I know nothing about DW except that's what my webmaster used for my sites and they look great. Contribute is to be used for changes made by html ingnorant people like myself. You can't have both open at the same time due to ftp session controls in place on most hosts unless of course you have your own server. It is very simple to use and even a dummy like me would have to try and screw it up. As the administrator you can determine which areas the dummies can work on. I don't have time to learn DW which is what I really want to do.

Contribute is a winner! After lurking most of the time for the last 6 months, due to the incredible knowledge here on WebmasterWorld, I have 75+ sites in first 2 pages of all major search engines. Thanks to everyone.

Robert Charlton

5:45 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've not personally used Contribute, but I have attended several Macromedia demos of it, and I've asked about the speed issue. Everyone I've spoken to assures me that the slow speed of v1 was one of the major things addressed in the update.

As I understand it, it does need to be used in conjunction with DW. The features I saw are attractive enough that when the right project comes along, I'll probably get DW just to get Contribute functionality.

mat

7:46 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Everyone I've spoken to assures me that the slow speed of v1 was one of the major things addressed in the update.

Have to join the opposition here. There was a thread in the backroom a few months ago about how unworkably slow Contribute is once you get above one, maximum two users.

The DW/Contribute check in/check out, combined with the versioning system Contribute uses, creates a large number of system files for each transaction - each check out creates, if I remember correctly, six files. If you then multiply that by the number of files involved in a 'dependent files' check in or out, then you're at a snails pace, and I'm on a fast line.

I really wanted it to work - the spec was exactly what I wanted - but it didn't, and others agreed pretty much unanimously. Just too, too slow.

Marcia

7:55 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just need to know if it can be used to add additonal pages, and I'm almost good to go.

Speed isn't an issue, it's so a client can add one or two pages a month and make changes to one page without having to rely on me. I'd just like to know if adding is possible - and if we'd both need to have DW or if they could add with using an online editor like some other CMS do.

red defender

10:59 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



Yes, Contribute can be used to add new pages to a site and set up links etc. I have two clients using the program to update their sites and it works well for them. Training took about an hour, most of that time spent on showing them how to put new images onto their pages, especially how to crop and resize them so that they did not fall into the trap of uploading 2Mb image files....

They are only single users so speed of operation is not an issue.