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Netscape 8.0 Beta released

It's alive!

         

encyclo

7:58 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, the Netscape broand is still alive, and the latest beta version of their new browser is available for testing.

[browser.netscape.com...]

Quick details: based on Firefox 1.0, Windows only, includes AIM client but no email client, allows up to ten personalized toolbars, does one-click IE rendering instead of using the Gecko engine, the interface looks like a dog's dinner and it apparently crashes if you so much as look at it funny.

It appears to be a simple cash-in on the old Netscape name, and they have given up building non-Windows versions where Mozilla and Firefox are already too well-known. Not sure I see the point, myself.

bcolflesh

8:03 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Did you install it in conjunction w/a 7.x version?

dom86

1:23 am on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well quiet like it. Million times better than the old versions.

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Interesting GUI

Don't Like the shopping box

Don't like that bit underneath the N on the top left, All those numbers. THAT NEEDS TO GO Netscape.

Rendering Engine A++++ (displays my site ok)

dom86

1:39 am on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You can change the Rendering Engine (nice one)

cooldoug

12:41 am on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Article on E-Week [eweek.com]

America Online's Netscape team has opened its doors to the public, releasing the first beta of the revived Netscape Web browser. Based upon Firefox, Netscape version 8 focuses on security and user privacy, and supports rendering with both Mozilla's Gecko and Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser engines.

[edited by: tedster at 2:16 am (utc) on Mar. 4, 2005]
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MatthewHSE

12:34 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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does one-click IE rendering instead of using the Gecko engine

I don't like this idea for obvious reasons, but it could be a nice convenience feature for developers. On the whole, though, I believe I'll stick with using my standard installs of IE 4-6.

txbakers

2:09 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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big whoop.

Netscape is dead. I flat out don't support it any more.

tedster

7:10 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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With AOL launching a Netscape branded "no frills" ISP service, want to bet that the new browser gets piggy backed onto it?

I'm seeing TV ads here for the Netscape ISP service, so AOL is putting some cash behind it.

grelmar

7:19 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Globe Technology. [theglobeandmail.com]

Most noteworthy among Netscape's new features is its anti-fraud technology, especially growing threats such as phishing. The browser uses frequently updated blacklists of websites that are suspected of distributing spyware or hosting phishing schemes. The lists will be supplied by outside security researchers.

Hmmmm....

And I repeat...

Hmmm.

flashfan

3:53 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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http://browser.netscape.com/nsb/product/default.jsp [browser.netscape.com]

Netscape began by trying to make an Internet that users found easy to use. Today we offer integrations of intuitive digital tools, innovative attractions and infinite media content. The revolutionary new Netscape Browser 8 provides more security options, streamlines more standard browsing tasks and arms internet users with more timesaving solutions to their browsing needs than any other browser...

Important Features

  • Tabbed Browsing
  • Site Controls
  • Multi-Bar
  • Form Fill/Passcard
  • Live Content

[edited by: tedster at 5:38 pm (utc) on Mar. 6, 2005]
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cmatcme

7:08 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Netscape wouldn't usually be my first choice of browser because most of them don't support much javascript but this browser does look improved in comparison to most browsers' design.

tedster

11:01 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As a point of information, Netscape invented javascript. Then Microsoft created their own "version" called jscript. If you find some functionality that Netscape doesn't support, it's more likely to be the IE's non-standard DOM than javascript itself.

For a version history, see this thread:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Hester

10:17 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Can someone tell me what the user agent string looks like for Netscape 8?

DanA

3:32 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The browser part which could be downloaded a few month ago and was called Netscape Browser had this UA :
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041122 Firefox/0.5.6+
The beta 8 :
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050302 Firefox/0.9.6

Hester

3:56 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It doesn't even mention Netscape?! People will think it's Firefox!

(Thanks anyway.)

DanA

4:29 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I forgot, it sends
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) NS8/0.9.6
if you want the IE "rendering engine"...
also sends
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
if you choose display like Internet Explorer
It is really at a beta stage

Hester

4:37 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It is really at a beta stage.

They've no excuse for using a bad user agent string. It should have "Netscape 8" in whatever the rendering engine. (Opera can appear to be a wide range of browsers, but always adds "Opera" in the string.)

I hope they improve this before the final version ships.

DanA

8:25 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Moreover, if you import settings from Mozilla, old Netscape or Firefox it will use the imported user agent,
it will even import your (disabled) extension settings in pref.js ...
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